Or Tesla could say free supercharging doesn't transfer just like the service plan and extended warranty don't transfer.
Too late. Online literature says it's free supercharging for the life of the model S.
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Or Tesla could say free supercharging doesn't transfer just like the service plan and extended warranty don't transfer.
Or Tesla could say free supercharging doesn't transfer just like the service plan and extended warranty don't transfer.
Too late. Online literature says it's free supercharging for the life of the model S.
They could do that but resale value of Teslas would drop and it would upset lots of owners and scare away potential buyers.
Heh, touché. But is that "life" as in prison which is like "15 years"?
I would argue the typical owner will flip their car before they burn through their reserve and the outliers (high/low milage and long/short ownership) will balance each other out.
Max* I agree with you however I watch lots of Tesla stuff (see topic in my signature) and in one of the videos I happened to come across a Tesla sales advisor who argued otherwise. They were doing a test drive and the sales advisor said to the potential buyer that Tesla might cancel free supercharging for the second owner if the car is sold.
I almost without exception get caught up on a thread before responding to a post, to make sure others haven't already said what I'm planning on saying. I'm four or five pages from being caught up on this thread, but need to comment on this now:AnxietyRanger said:Frankly, I'm not sure bonnie and NigelM do any favors to their point of view by supporting each other on almost every thread. It looks more like wingman action than real conversation at times.
I strongly disagree with the quoted comment above. For starters, Bonnie and Nigel don't do that. Sure, there are threads on which they agree, and one will support the other, but I don't see that happening nearly as often as you suggest.
More importantly, I, and I believe most other TMC members, have a great deal of respect for both Bonnie and Nigel. I've only been around less than a year, so I'm not the best judge of the long-term history of TMC, but from what I can tell I'd be hard-pressed to come up with two people who have done more for the good of the TMC community than those two. I value both of their opinions very highly. There is no doubt in my mind that each speaks their own mind, and if they were to disagree, they would say so. The fact that they agree much more than they disagree is just a testament to the fact that they are both very smart people who have been around a long time, know a lot about Tesla, and want the company to succeed. (This is one of the reasons I dislike it when I disagree with either of them.)
I imagine as I read through the next five (or by now possibly six) pages of this thread I'll find other comments along the lines of mine. (At least I hope I will.) I just couldn't continue reading posts in this thread without responding to this myself.
Max* I agree with you however I watch lots of Tesla stuff (see topic in my signature) and in one of the videos I happened to come across a Tesla sales advisor who argued otherwise. They were doing a test drive and the sales advisor said to the potential buyer that Tesla might cancel free supercharging for the second owner if the car is sold.
Again you make it appear that if two folks are of like mind on most topics, that must imply agenda. There are a boatload of forum members, of course there are going to be folks that tend to think along similar lines.
I happen to find myself agreeing with the viewpoints of several people time and again here. It's often after I read the post that I realize it's once again somebody I've agreed with before.
Why don't you determine if a post has merit based on it's content, rather than casting aspersion on the post or poster by calling in to question who else voices a similar sentiment?
Incidentally, they aren't the only ones who voice support for other's posts:
Interestingly all of these "complimentary" posts happen to be to people voicing an opinion that generally supports your stance.
(Of course I expect you to explain this away by saying it's not a pattern of the SAME person, etc... which will once again ignore the crux of the issue: look at the merit of the post, not the poster.)
Well based on a quick scan of this thread I will be in the minority. But my opinion is:
- I am very glad the e-mail went out. I don't want to be doing a long distance trip with no other charging choices and have a supercharger filled with local owners trying to save $10 on charging a $75K-$130K cost car. They have a choice of home charging. On a long trip my only choice is Supercharging.
- If you got an e-mail and were not local charging on a regular basis or have no way of home charging (ex: apartment) just ignore it, it was misdirected at you by accident or bad algorithm or did not know your circumstances, etc.
I frankly don't care at all about the arguments about what was promised. If you can charge at home rather then inconvenience others do so. If you can not charge at home or were not charging at a local superchargers repeatedly ignore the e-mail.
Based on the several pages of comments I read (I certainly did not read 50 pages of comments) many/most here will disagree with me and I respect your views but don't feel compelled to agree with them.
A typical owner might sell the car after 5 years but supercharging is attached to the car, not the owner. After you sell the car, the car continues to have free supercharging. Most current Model S cars that have free supercharging for life will end up as taxis and Uber cars. They will get old and restored multiple times. Future Tesla buyers will pay for the fuels of these cars for decades to come. The problems are just starting. Over time there will be more superchargers near dense areas and used Model S cars will be cheaper. It means people looking for opportunities will buy a Model S to start a business.
why would you deal with the maintenance headaches of a 10 or 15 year old car (not to mention forgoing the technical advances that have occurred in the intervening time)?
Of course I voice support for people I agree with. I don't do it to the same people on many threads, though. You also quoted my compliments to Zach, whom BTW I do *not* agree with - but truly appreciate his contributions. I also compliment a lot of folks that make a good case or post, even if I don't agree.
My point wasn't about agenda, I don't think there is one, it was about perception. NigelM and bonnie complement each other on a lot of threads and I wonder if that helps or hurts their message. It is quite predictable and often contains insider references and winks and nods that them and maybe a few old timers understand, and it is hard to converse with that.