ModelNforNerd
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Most of us pay residential rates for home charging, not commercial rates.
Oddly enough, I pay more then the commercial rate in my state, sooo............
(according to this map, anyway)
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Most of us pay residential rates for home charging, not commercial rates.
I have a feeling this is a bit misleading. This is probably based on base rates?According to Pacific Power's website, the US national average COMMERCIAL power rate is 10.74 cents/kWh.
Prices range from 7.16 to 24.96 (probably Hawaii) cents per kWh.
Commercial Price Comparison
Pretty much guarantee it. It'd be very difficult to condense and display all the data on peak usage surcharges and so on in something that simple.I have a feeling this is a bit misleading. This is probably based on base rates?
Most of us pay residential rates for home charging, not commercial rates.
Yea but even then... Superchargers probably get hit with high usage charges, but if you average all hours of the day and all times of night those prices may be closer. However, usually these statistics are for the power rate, EXCLUDING fees.The webpage says, "average commercial rates by state." So, yes, prices vary within each state.
If you pay residential rate...of course!Oddly enough, I pay more then the commercial rate in my state, sooo............
(according to this map, anyway)
True. My response was to comments re. home charging in this post.Yep, but I presume Tesla superchargers are billed at the commercial rate, which is what this thread is about; Tesla supercharger rates. I thought it was relevant. If not, move along.
Having very uniform [high] use helps mitigate the peak demand surcharges' impact but it still represents a very real increase over the base rate that people try to use for running napkin math economics. It also requires business that isn't heavily cyclic through the day and week. The nature of 25 - 40 mins for most customers and just random arrivals means if you're running near full capacity you're going to often backlog substantially, and the time of average backlog will rise exponentially as you approach closer to average full capacity. This is because of a rapidly rising risk of collisions of charging windows.Peak demand charges look high, but they depend on the ratio of average use and peak use.
Demand charges are typically based on the highest average kW over any 15 minute interval in the daily eligible period during the month.Assume
Demand charges are typically based on the highest average kW over any 15 minute interval in the daily eligible period during the month.
($120+732*0.043) / 732 = 21 cents a kWh
Yes,i'm not following where the 732 came from? is it just the number of hours in a month? Thanks for taking the time to explain.
Exactly.point being you can ave a single momentary demand spike and it will completely change the calculation for the entire month even if a SCer was mostly idle.
Someone is going to take me to task for not using 365.25 days in a year ... and then all hell will break loose.
They just reduce the increase of SC to only 10 percent.
525,600 minutes. That's how I measure, measure a year...You need to use the Tropical year of 365.24219 days.
Thank you for removing the suspense. I must point out though that your number is not the exact time of a solar revolution.You need to use the Tropical year of 365.24219 days.
525,948....and I think about 29 seconds?525,600 minutes. That's how I measure, measure a year...