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Switching from a Model 3 Performance to a Model X Plaid, anyone done it?

For 0 to 60, I think the 2020 Model X LR is about 4.4 seconds. My 2016 P90D Ludicrous+ X will supposedly go 0 to 60 in 3.3 seconds, but only if I move suspension to "Low", set Ludicrous+ and wait for battery to warm up, then go through launch sequence with pedals. It's awesome and feels like a roller coaster, even if flooring it at low speeds anytime. If coming from Model 3 Performance, I guess you should only test drive the Performance X. Also note that you won't have fast acceleration with the X above 60mph unless you get the Plaid. On my P90DL if you floor it when already going 60mph, the acceleration is just OK, compared to previous Lexus V8 I had.
I think I missed the stiffer suspension and handling more than the 0-60. The only time I do launches on my 3P is when I’m driving to the ski report in the winter time with winter tires haha. But hey, the wife says that I should live with the 0-60 in 4.4 seconds if it means spending 40k less 😂.
 
Any ragrets?

I'm the "bus driver" for 2 kiddos, 60 miles round trip each day, mostly highway.
I love my 2018 Model 3 Performance but the back seats are starting to get cramped.
The adaptive suspension and ventilated seats are really calling my name, the insane acceleration is just a very VERY nice by product.

We looked at a refresh S Plaid in person but it doesn't really buy much in the way of interior space. The better half was all "what's the difference?" lol. So yeah the S got vetoed. However she's warming up to the 6 seater X. She'd like the option of being able to take her parents or friends with our kids along the ride so there's that.

So yeah, this would be my DD. I've always had lightish, smallish, and nimble cars (2 door Civic, MK7 Golf R, E36 M3, WRX/STi), never SUVs, big sedans, nor trucks. What makes me giggle the most is off the stop light smashing the go pedal. I know the X is a big beast and will feel like one but I'm hoping I can make the compromise since it has such insane acceleration and will be an upgrade from the straight line performance aspect compared to the 3.

Anyone regretted going to an X from a 3?
Be sure to comb through the X posts.
 

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I think I missed the stiffer suspension and handling more than the 0-60. The only time I do launches on my 3P is when I’m driving to the ski report in the winter time with winter tires haha. But hey, the wife says that I should live with the 0-60 in 4.4 seconds if it means spending 40k less 😂.
But every time you hit a bumpy stretch of road you will be happy you are in the X versus the 3P. ;)
 
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Destiny1701

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Congrats on the Plaid buy!

Curious if the OP considered an MY Performance? Very similar ride height to the X, more room width wise and length wise than the M3, handles better than the X and literally half the price for 0-60 3.5 sec.(3.3 with forged lighter rims) Hmm 🤔

I know the MYP and Plaid are two diff animals and would never really compare them in the same class, but initially op said need some extra space. The lift gate, full auto fold down seats, higher seating position, reclining rear seats, pano glass roof..a lot more to offer than model 3.

Oh and zero shudder…ever on MYP.
 
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Congrats on the Plaid buy!

Curious if the OP considered an MY Performance? Very similar ride height to the X, more room width wise and length wise than the M3, handles better than the X and literally half the price for 0-60 3.5 sec.(3.3 with forged lighter rims) Hmm 🤔

I know the MYP and Plaid are two diff animals and would never really compare them in the same class, but initially op said need some extra space. The lift gate, full auto fold down seats, higher seating position, reclining rear seats, pano glass roof..a lot more to offer than model 3.

Oh and zero shudder…ever on MYP.
From an engineering perspective the Y, imo, is far superior than the X. And I love my X.
 
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Destiny1701

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For now, give it some time to wear the half shafts. Approximately every 23,000 miles.
Went through this with my 2016’ 90D S and then 2017 P100DS…the latter having half and full shafts changed 3x, motor mounts 2x.
Finally ended S lease and moved into a model 3 LR w/boost and an MYP coming. While I miss the S refinement, I don’t miss the dreaded sh rudder. Neither of 3 or Y have exhibited this design flaw. Shocked the new S still has this.

For the record, what the 3 lacks in smooth ride, it makes up for in quick sprint, handling and day to day drivability. I have a yoke coming to add while keeping original stalks (best of both ) and auto present door handles as the S so my wife doesn’t chip her nails lol. We both love the ease of drive with the 3 and we look forward to the MYP for ride height, kids room in back and gobs of power :)

There are times I see a new S and I remember the days :)
 
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Curious if the OP considered an MY Performance?
MYP wasn't even on my radar, neither was the X Plaid to be honest.

Story time.

Back in the day it was the hippy wife that kinda started all this. We were looking for a 3rd row SUV and looked at the Highlander Hybrid that was new at the time but the 3rd row tightness got vetoed by the in-laws since the car seats (at the time) would have to be on the 2nd row.

Flirted with an X but I vetoed the price at the time (oh how future me would change his tune!). So we just got a '16 Accord Hybrid sedan for her and called it a day.

P3D was announced and I mid life crisis ordered one to replace my MK7 R. I'm a sucker for quick off the line AWD cars.

Tried to get the wife back on the X wagon after we had the 3 for awhile but she has road trip range anxiety and the added inconvenience of having to plan in stops and the added time got the X vetoed again.

Plaid S comes out and dear gravy do I want one. How they utterly and completely decimate cars in the 1/4 and on highway rolls is just nucking futs. Plus they just keep pulling. I love my 3 but I've gotten used to the performance and a bit bummed how quickly it dies up top, yes I'm spoiled. So I knew if I was gonna upgrade to something it was gonna have to be a pretty revolutionary step, not just a small incremental one. I then started selling myself on all the other niceties of the S, the heat pump, air suspension, height adjustable, vented seats, more room in the rear for the soon to be teenagers, the refreshed look so it'll look like my 3 but better, etc.

I put the S plaid on the back burner though, wife was very displeased with the price. As luck would have it the Tulsa showroom was getting a S Plaid to demo thru March and it was EXACTLY how I'd want to order it. I'm super excited again thinking about the Plaid, am I really gonna do this?

So now the S train starts up again. I've worn down the wife by this point with my constant babbling about all it's specs. She agrees to shut me up by going and looking at it. I was really really hoping the back seat would be much larger than my 3 as that was gonna be key decision but nope, it wasn't a game changer in the regard.

So we leave the showroom and I'm dejected. Wife isn't a "cars are life" kinda gear head so she wasn't impressed with it at all, more dejection. But then she says "what about the X?". I was like, "sure, if it's your car, I don't want a land barge". She reverts back to the "we need at least one ICE for any road trips we might take". But, she sorta green lights the X purchase. Woot?

I sleep on it. The more I think about it though the more I get into it. We can finally have that 3rd row so we can stuff our children back there on the few times it'd be nice to take just one car instead of two with the in-laws. The MYP was a non starter since it wasn't Plaid. I had to have something faster than my current 3.

I do more unhealthy YouTube and internet searches and I pretty much sell myself that the Plaid X is right for me for my current situation in life:

+While not the top dog compared to the S, it'll still destroy 99% of whats on the road today in a straight line.
+Active noise cancelation plus double pane glass plus air ride should really make our commutes an even greater pleasure than the 3.
+3rd row for taking in-laws Xmas light viewing? Lol kinda a stretch. We'll see how often we carry 5 or 6 people.
+Height adjustable so I can look cool in low or bump to high for snow clearance the few times it snows a year around here.
+Lots more room for backpacks and sports equipment and our growing kids that I chauffeur around.

So yeah, I finally talked myself into it and had yet another mid life crisis purchase. I can't really fathom that I'm purchasing a 6 figure car. Oh well, yolo? Might as well smoke em if you got em, right?

TL;DR I wanted something faster than my Model 3 Performance, so that's why I didn't look at the Model Y Performance.
 

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I do more unhealthy YouTube and internet searches and I pretty much sell myself that the Plaid X is right for me for my current situation in life:

+While not the top dog compared to the S, it'll still destroy 99% of whats on the road today in a straight line.
+Active noise cancelation plus double pane glass plus air ride should really make our commutes an even greater pleasure than the 3.
+3rd row for taking in-laws Xmas light viewing? Lol kinda a stretch. We'll see how often we carry 5 or 6 people.
+Height adjustable so I can look cool in low or bump to high for snow clearance the few times it snows a year around here.
+Lots more room for backpacks and sports equipment and our growing kids that I chauffeur around.

So yeah, I finally talked myself into it and had yet another mid life crisis purchase. I can't really fathom that I'm purchasing a 6 figure car. Oh well, yolo? Might as well smoke em if you got em, right?

TL;DR I wanted something faster than my Model 3 Performance, so that's why I didn't look at the Model Y Performance.

I have a 6 seater and always have the back seats folded down. They're down so often, I even have a WeatherTech mat sized with the seats down. It's nice to pop them up, when I need to carry an extra two people. I've sat back there and it's not comfy, but it's not terrible. I wouldn't want to sit there for long rides though. Terrible platform aside, I think the X is a much nicer car than the Y. Congrats, you should be very happy
 
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Most people aren't having issues with the air suspension. It's the suspension components themselves that are poorly manufactured/designed. The air suspension is one of the things I really enjoy about the X!
Maybe you missed the half shaft shudder and vibration upon acceleration? I like my X as well. But, new half shafts every year isn’t desirable, where as the Model Y for half the price is a better option for most. IMO. My X took my family 94,000 miles before the on board charger seemingly failed. Last week it was half shafts.
 

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We have a Chevy Avalanche as a tow vehicle for our RV (Apex Nano 194BHS), so we have used the Avalanche in the past for moving small stuff, or bikes, or even dirt.

It's such a bummer trying to find that right mix of vehicles to satisfy all our wants.

Sometimes it'd be nice to have a two person convertible.
Other times we need what feels like a friggin 20 person limo.
Even other times it'd be nice to be just have a box truck to haul junk.

Hopefully the X will punch a lot of boxes and I won't be too grumpy with it being so large and heavy.
 
We have a Chevy Avalanche as a tow vehicle for our RV (Apex Nano 194BHS), so we have used the Avalanche in the past for moving small stuff, or bikes, or even dirt.

It's such a bummer trying to find that right mix of vehicles to satisfy all our wants.

Sometimes it'd be nice to have a two person convertible.
Other times we need what feels like a friggin 20 person limo.
Even other times it'd be nice to be just have a box truck to haul junk.

Hopefully the X will punch a lot of boxes and I won't be too grumpy with it being so large and heavy.
When its doing all the driving nothing else really matters 😊
 

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