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SYD - BNE Supercharger Route

dogphlap

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Jan 24, 2015
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Google maps claims Macadamia Castle to Cassegrain's Winery is 373km but even so my 70D consistently only gets 350km on 100% charge (and that is with another 5psi in the tyres, air conditioning on and gentle driving) so I'd find myself stopping at Coffs Harbour Showground to pick up 50km or more range and avoid the stress. The folks at Coffs are very accommodating.
 

Chuq

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I'm not sure what the delay has been - obviously the issues at The Farm threw them off. But they are a lot closer than things appeared a month ago. At least we can see they are keeping ahead of things on the MEL-ADL route.

But in the scheme of things, they've gone well - look at their US and European planned routes in comparison. The I-10 route (southwest US, between Arizona and Texas) has been on the map since 2014, and it still isn't anywhere near close to being done. Imagine if you lived in the region and bought a Model S a couple of years ago expecting to soon be able to use them...
 

WhiteStar

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Sep 28, 2014
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...Maybe a couple of Euroa style sleds in Coffs and Brisbane. Otherwise there are going to be a lot of holiday road trip plans needing review.

The lack of communication from Tesla on this is getting beyond a joke.

Couldn't agree more. Very disappointing indeed. If the permanent installations are actually delayed to this extent, no doubt Tesla has the ability to at least get temporary SC's into Coffs & Brisbane. In this case, plans should be announced ahead of completion so that confidence is maintained at a high level.
 
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LGGD

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May 29, 2014
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Google maps claims Macadamia Castle to Cassegrain's Winery is 373km but even so my 70D consistently only gets 350km on 100% charge (and that is with another 5psi in the tyres, air conditioning on and gentle driving) so I'd find myself stopping at Coffs Harbour Showground to pick up 50km or more range and avoid the stress. The folks at Coffs are very accommodating.

Maybe Tesla needs to pay them (or some other venue in Coffs) to put in a 3/32 HPWC that's available 24/7 at least temporarily until a sled or permanent SC is in.

Most people don't have the adapters to use what's there at the Showgrounds and many people need it outside of the current availability hours.

Three phase sockets at a Showgrounds is not a solution for the majority of owners.
 
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LGGD

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I'm not sure what the delay has been - obviously the issues at The Farm threw them off. But they are a lot closer than things appeared a month ago. At least we can see they are keeping ahead of things on the MEL-ADL route.

But in the scheme of things, they've gone well - look at their US and European planned routes in comparison. The I-10 route (southwest US, between Arizona and Texas) has been on the map since 2014, and it still isn't anywhere near close to being done. Imagine if you lived in the region and bought a Model S a couple of years ago expecting to soon be able to use them...

I don't need to imagine. I live in such a disconnected region - along with hundreds of other owners - not to mention all the many hundreds more in the southern states who planned on visiting Queensland during the holidays.
 

LGGD

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The gap I'm talking about is 1300 km! It's like promising Melbourne to Brisbane and then only having Melbourne and Euroa. It looks like you're going to have 90% of the route you were promised by end of Dec 2016.

How does that help anyone in a 60/70/75 who can't make the gap? 373km might as well be 1373km. And seriously, they only had to do one route, just one. And it happens to be the route between the first and third largest population centres in the country. They have had three years to plan and execute this and they still fall 50% short.
 

Bullet1

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How does that help anyone in a 60/70/75 who can't make the gap? 373km might as well be 1373km. And seriously, they only had to do one route, just one. And it happens to be the route between the first and third largest population centres in the country. They have had three years to plan and execute this and they still fall 50% short.

While we wait for the long missing Coffs SC link anyone with a 60/70/75 shouldn't be put off making the trip up or down the coast.

My 70D (only approx. 3kwh more than the 60) consistenly can range more than 373km normal driving (not sure if my car is a freak though?).

Recent trip from GC past Mac Castle out to Casino NSW + Extra driving round GC for the day 392km + still had 37Km in the tank when arrived home. See pic below. Done this number of times + run from Port SC to Star Casino Sydney fully loaded front and rear + 3 pass and still had range ( see pic 381km + 57km spare.)

Both drives used less than 60kwhs! (58.8 & 57.3)

GC to Casino return.JPG
Range arrival at Pyrmont SC 70D.jpg
 

RichardMcN

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Mar 12, 2016
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While we wait for the long missing Coffs SC link anyone with a 60/70/75 shouldn't be put off making the trip up or down the coast.

My 70D (only approx. 3kwh more than the 60) consistenly can range more than 373km normal driving (not sure if my car is a freak though?).

Recent trip from GC past Mac Castle out to Casino NSW + Extra driving round GC for the day 392km + still had 37Km in the tank when arrived home. See pic below. Done this number of times + run from Port SC to Star Casino Sydney fully loaded front and rear + 3 pass and still had range ( see pic 381km + 57km spare.)

Both drives used less than 60kwhs! (58.8 & 57.3)

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How fast do you drive @Bullet1 ?
 

Bullet1

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Mar 7, 2016
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Gold Coast, QLD Australia
How fast do you drive @Bullet1 ?
Speed limit + - 5kmh.
On long trips try and drive smooth as poss if driving manual. If on AP set at 4-5 lengths and on speed limit.
Tyre pressure on 3.2 bar cold
Not trying that hard really as it seems to average out even round town with launches off the lights balanced with normal driving.
 

Mark E

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Jun 27, 2012
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While we wait for the long missing Coffs SC link anyone with a 60/70/75 shouldn't be put off making the trip up or down the coast.

My 70D (only approx. 3kwh more than the 60) consistenly can range more than 373km normal driving (not sure if my car is a freak though?).

Recent trip from GC past Mac Castle out to Casino NSW + Extra driving round GC for the day 392km + still had 37Km in the tank when arrived home. See pic below. Done this number of times + run from Port SC to Star Casino Sydney fully loaded front and rear + 3 pass and still had range ( see pic 381km + 57km spare.)

Both drives used less than 60kwhs! (58.8 & 57.3)

That is impressive - and looks better than an S85 on 19". That being said, it can really depend on some external factors like rain, cold, traffic etc. I found that the S85 was advising to slow down at the beginning, but after driving behind a 4WD for a while the projections got way more optimistic.

I drove from the Pt. Mac Supercharger to Hornsby Heights, then out to dinner and back and still had 30+km remaining on a 30º day with 4 people and luggage, sitting on the speed limit +/- 5km/h
 

LGGD

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May 29, 2014
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Gold Coast
"I have received this update from Australia's supercharger manager:

"Today or tomorrow there will be a press release communicating about 3 sites under construction (Motto Farm Heatherbrae, Macadamia Castle and a shopping centre in Ballarat).
These should open within a couple of months from now.

Furthermore, the plan for 2017 will be published on our website within a couple of weeks as well. We have a significant number of new sites planned for next year so we’re really excited to expand the network."

We will share information that we get from Tesla, recognising that it is infrequent!"

So, now it is confirmed that Coffs Harbour and Brisbane are not even under construction but instead they are building in Ballarat.
 
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Dborn

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Aug 26, 2011
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How does that help anyone in a 60/70/75 who can't make the gap? 373km might as well be 1373km. And seriously, they only had to do one route, just one. And it happens to be the route between the first and third largest population centres in the country. They have had three years to plan and execute this and they still fall 50% short.
I am progressively more disillusioned by Tesla as time goes by. Great start, but they are progressively more like other car companies as time goes by. Latest is a major disappointment in relation to homelink or a substitute. Huw in Sydney has now had an express instruction to no longer discuss or deal with the matter, after two years of promising " engineering is looking into it".
 

gcgp

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Nov 11, 2015
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Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia
My 70D (only approx. 3kwh more than the 60) consistenly can range more than 373km normal driving (not sure if my car is a freak though?).

Both drives used less than 60kwhs! (58.8 & 57.3)

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Call me impressed! My trip to Woolgooga, with a quick stop at Macadamia Castle, was around 321 kms at 170 Wh/km. I was driving on AP for most of the trip, i would estimate at 90% if the trip. Driving at speed limit unless vehicles in front of me were slow. I've never averaged at 150 Wh/km. My average Wh/km for the lifetime of the car so far is around 185 Wh/km but that's mostly driving around the Gold Coast. My previous longest drives were Gold Coast to Sirromet Winery (with free destination charging there) and back.
 

Dborn

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Aug 26, 2011
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Sydney, Australia
Just used the destination connector at Soldiers point marina in Port Stephens. 32amp 3 phase x2. Was getting 103km per hour! Dual chargers on my car, of course. Lovely venue and really good restaurant and separate cafe.

Heatherbrae not operational yet?
 
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ICUDoc

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May 19, 2015
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Great start, but they are progressively more like other car companies as time goes by.
Yup. Hard to maintain the standard when you expand and have to employ non-geeks to work in your geek company.
Still find them much better than MB, I have to say....
 

NovoCasGreeny

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Apr 6, 2016
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Newcastle, NSW
Just used the destination connector at Soldiers point marina in Port Stephens. 32amp 3 phase x2. Was getting 103km per hour! Dual chargers on my car, of course. Lovely venue and really good restaurant and separate cafe.

Heatherbrae not operational yet?
ETA 3 weeks, that's when the switch on outage for Ausgrid is planned. I will get a photo later this week whenever the bays are all installed.
 

Simbul

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Apr 19, 2015
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Australia
While we wait for the long missing Coffs SC link anyone with a 60/70/75 shouldn't be put off making the trip up or down the coast.

My 70D (only approx. 3kwh more than the 60) consistenly can range more than 373km normal driving (not sure if my car is a freak though?).

Recent trip from GC past Mac Castle out to Casino NSW + Extra driving round GC for the day 392km + still had 37Km in the tank when arrived home. See pic below. Done this number of times + run from Port SC to Star Casino Sydney fully loaded front and rear + 3 pass and still had range ( see pic 381km + 57km spare.)

Both drives used less than 60kwhs! (58.8 & 57.3)

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That is excellent.....

My P90DL just barely gets over 400km.... lowest l have seen it is 190wh/km... average is over 200wh/km..
 

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