"Take over steering wheel immediately" bug

[No42]

So, when you are on AP on a freeway, and press the go pedal to pass the car next to you and happen to exceed the AP auto-steer limit even for a sec (90mph I think) the car will yell on you to take over the steering immediately since it is beyond the limit.
The bug is you will not be able to engage the auto-steer any more until the end of the current trip like the car punishes you thinking you were not holding the steering or ignoring AP nags.

Have you guys noticed this?

I am on 2018.36.2

 

[Zaxxon]

That's not a bug. Don't exceed 90 mph when on autopilot. Instant autopilot jail.

 

[mongo]

So, when you are on AP on a freeway, and press the go pedal to pass the car next to you and happen to exceed the AP auto-steer limit even for a sec (90mph I think) the car will yell on you to take over the steering immediately since it is beyond the limit.
The bug is you will not be able to engage the auto-steer any more until the end of the current trip like the car punishes you thinking you were not holding the steering or ignoring AP nags.

Have you guys noticed this?

I am on 2018.36.2

Not a bug, Autosteer disables until it is placed in park if you are in AP and go over 90 MPH. You should get a warning saying it is unavailable for the rest of the drive after that happens (page 68 of manual). Same behavior as S and X. If you need to pass someone at that speed, disengage, pass, then reengage. 90 MPH is the upper limit of TACC, AEB, and lane departure warning also.

 

[No42]

Well, I understand the motivation of "AP jail" when you ignore "hold the steering wheel" msg.
It is not clear though why you should not be able to re-engage the AP after the pass.
If it is not a bug, than even worse, it is poor designed feature.

As a side note, how they decided to punish you exactly like that in this case? I insist they also turn on the climate, seat heater and radio to max, block the windows, and disable power steering for example.

 

[kbecks13]

It's because you are either:

A) Falling asleep and probably shouldn't use autopilot
B) Pushing autopilot past it's safe limits and making it more likely to crash, which isn't great for yourself OR Tesla.

 

[mongo]

Well, I understand the motivation of "AP jail" when you ignore "hold the steering wheel" msg.
It is not clear though why you should not be able to re-engage the AP after the pass.
If it is not a bug, than even worse, it is poor designed feature.

As a side note, how they decided to punish you exactly like that in this case? I insist they also turn on the climate, seat heater and radio to max, block the windows, and disable power steering for example.

If you push the feature beyond its stated limits, the car takes the feature away from you, temporarily. Seems fair.

 

[ebmcs03]

90 mph and you expect the system to read the lines far enough to be safe?? I’m glad it takes it away.

 

[timk225]

When I had the two week free AP trial, on my last day I let it go without holding the wheel until the nag kicked the AP out. Just to see what it would do. It punished me by taking away AP until the next car restart .

 

[No42]

Guys, point is it is panishing you for passing. Even if you have your hands on the wheel. Hope this is clear now.

 

[Zaxxon]

It is punishing you for using Autopilot in an unsafe manner.

 

[sduck]

Sure, whatever. Thanks for sharing.

 

[brkaus]

Guys, point is it is panishing you for passing. Even if you have your hands on the wheel. Hope this is clear now.

No, it is punishing you for exceeding the safe speed for autopilot to be used. Has noting to do with passing. The police will also write a ticket for 90mph, even if all one us doing is passing.

 

[fr100]

Whenever I need to make a quick pass, I disengage AP, make the pass, then re-enagage AP when safe.

 

[No42]

The other day my dishwasher punished me for loading too many items at once. Had to make dishes myself until next dinner.

Just kidding, that was my car, punishing me for driving her

 

[TT97]

No, it is punishing you for exceeding the safe speed for autopilot to be used. Has noting to do with passing. The police will also write a ticket for 90mph, even if all one us doing is passing.

On the positive side, if the police pulls you over, AP will work again once you get the ticket!

 

[No42]

I imagine in Texas where the legal speed limit is up to 85mph on some highways, or in some EU counties with no speed limit highways it would be always impossible to pass without loosing the AP functionality if you forget to disengage it beforehand.

 

[silentsnow31802]

Stop saying panishing. At first I thought you made a typo but your doing it over and over. That is not a word.

Its a scary though that there are people trying to use AP at over 90Mph that cannot even spell.

 

[thecloud]

Stop saying panishing. At first I thought you made a typo but your doing it over and over. That is not a word.

Its a scary though that there are people trying to use AP at over 90Mph that cannot even spell.

If you're going to criticize the spelling of others, first learn the difference between "your" and "you're."

Back on topic, it makes me wonder why people even have Autosteer on if they feel the need to manually drive and pass a vehicle at speeds over 90 mph. Turning it off first when you're taking control to do a passing maneuver seems like the best approach.

 

[RedModel3]

I think in a case like this, the warning should be, "Stop driving like a jerk. You're gonna crash and make Tesla look bad." Was your last car a BMW by any chance?

 

[brkaus]

Back on topic, it makes me wonder why people even have Autosteer on if they feel the need to manually drive and pass a vehicle at speeds over 90 mph. Turning it off first when you're taking control to do a passing maneuver seems like the best approach.

Exactly. There should not be any contest on who is in control at that speed. I practice disengaging AP by resisting the wheel motion, but I wouldn't want to be making a quick takeover move at that speed. Not that I couldn't, but its a risk that I don't need to take.