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Take That BMW VW: 1000 new Quick Chargers

Discussion in 'North America' started by tmac, Jan 28, 2015.

  1. tmac

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    On the heels of 100 new fast chargers from BMW and VW, Nissan announces 1000 new chargers! :love:



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    I am sure Leaf owners want to know where and when! Also Tesla owners if the conversion plug works.....


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  2. Robert.Boston

    Robert.Boston Model S VIN P01536

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    From the article, I gather that Nissan's stations will have both CHAdeMO and J1772 plugs. With all that power available, I'd hope the J1772 is at 80A!

    We have to balance the commendable breadth of Nissan's plans against the fact that its plug-in car, the Leaf, has a short range. It seems likely that Nissan will focus its new stations in metropolitan areas, supporting the Leaf's role as a commuter/errand car. I doubt that we'll see anyone driving the Leaf coast-to-coast on Nissan's expanded CHAdeMO network anytime soon.
     
  3. tga

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    Once the CHAdeMO adapter is real, a network of public CHAdeMO stations in cities will also help offset the need for SuperChargers to support city residents without home charging facilities.
     
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    Not necessarily, would you rather sit at a 50kW Chademo that you have to pay for to charge your car or a free 120kW supercharger?
     
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    I would rather pay to charge at a 50kW Chademo charger than wait for a 120kW supercharger that was ICEd.
    The devil is in the details.
     
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    Assuming these CHAdeMOs continue the trend of having only a single stall per site, something tells me that the likelihood of the CHAdeMO being ICE'd is much higher than all the stalls at a Supercharger are ICE'd. I've now Supercharged about 50 times, and have never been ICE'd...

    But I don't get the animosity... This is good news -- more DC chargers coming, and ones that are at least usable with Tesla's CHAdeMO adapter. I see it as more options for destination charging and possibly opens up some non-Supercharger routes. I don't currently plan to get the CHAdeMO adapter, but placement of these chargers might sway my mind...
     
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    #7 TEG, Jan 28, 2015
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    I doubt we would see high current AC J1772. More likely they have SAE-Combo DC, along with the CHAdeMO, and maybe 30A J1772.

    Their "Freedom stations" came with AC J1772, but plans for SAE Combo DC too:
    http://www.nrgevgo.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/NRG-eVgo-Freedom-Station-Infographic.pdf
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    I see them say things like "up to 24 miles per hour charging" which I think indicates 30A max on the J1772.
     
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    I get your point, but "help offset the need for" != "eliminate the need for". Clearly 120kW free is better than 50kW paid, but any additional charging opportunities in cities is good, and will help drive EV adoption (and, by extension, Tesla adoption) by city residents.

    I know plenty of city dwellers without off-street parking. An EV is a tough sell for that potential buyer.
     
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    Although it doesn't say so in the article, I wonder if they will set aside, say, 50 of the chargers for a east-west cross-country route?
     
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    Is there a CHAdeMO adaptor for my model S? I assume the car will work with the DC fast chargers... Right?
     
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    Tesla Gear Shop CHAdeMO Adapter

    I think there is a wait list right now, and not many yet delivered.
     
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    Thanks for lead on the adaptor
     
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    So, now that this appears to be happening, time to repeat previously asked but not really answered questions 1) will Tesla make a CCS adaptor? 2)will CCS or Chademo offer a quicker charging, in real world guise?
     
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    Here's another question: Since the patents are open, will a manufacturer offer a Tesla plug on a DCQC unit? In Europe, there are triple-standard ABB units offering CHAdeMO, CCS Combo and 43 kW AC. In North America it would make sense to replace the 43 kW AC by Tesla.
     
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    It is unlikely that anyone will make a Tesla charging station other than Tesla itself. Why bother? The J1772 works for everyone and Teslas come with an adapter. There is no advantage of having a Tesla plug over J1772 from a charging station point of view.
     
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    The Nissan fast DC chargers are CHAdeMO and J1772 CCS-1(Frankenplug) combo units. 50KW 125Adc.
     

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