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Tesla 2021 Australian Supercharger Rollout

Discussion in 'Australia' started by rohan3au, Jan 4, 2021.

  1. rohan3au

    rohan3au Member

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    Tesla has updated their 2021 Supercharger rollout map for Australia with the following locations now showing as coming this year (all Coming Soon locations now mention which quarter they're expected by. Thanks to @Chuq for the list and heads up!

    Q1:
    Geelong, VIC
    Brisbane, QLD

    Q2:
    Traralgon, VIC
    Yea, VIC (Mansfield)

    Q3: Colac, VIC
    Frankston, VIC (Baxter)
    Perth, WA

    Q4:
    Warrnambool, VIC
    Bairnsdale, VIC
    Melbourne 1, VIC (CBD)
    Melbourne 2, VIC (Nunawading)
    Wollongong, NSW
    Sydney 1, NSW (Homebush)
    Sydney 2, NSW (Woollahra)
    Bundaberg, QLD (Childers)

    Unknown Q:
    Williams, WA
     
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  2. Punchbuggy

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    So many in Victoria - 9. Could it be that Tesla are selling more cars there, or are there just more in other states already (I haven't checked)?
     
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    no SA ones :( I was hoping for a Port Augusta so it could make West trips just that little easier...
     
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  4. Tigger

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    Interesting question - here are some stats: https://electricvehiclecouncil.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/EVC-State-of-EVs-2020-report.pdf

    • EVs Sold (page 14): 2019 sales for NSW and VIC are roughly the same at 832 and 815, respectively.
    • Charging Infrastructure (page 38): NSW does have a significantly higher number of charging sites and stations. 59 vs. 28 sites, and 153 vs. 86 stations. But should charging infrastructure scale with vehicles or land area? If the latter, NSW should have 3.5x more.
     
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    #5 moa999, Jan 4, 2021
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    Includes 5 that have been on the list in 2020, and previous, so its more of a catchup
     
  6. Chuq

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    I think it's that the 2019 rollout was so focused on NSW and not Vic, it's just restoring a bit of balance as Vic has been comparatively under-served since then.
     
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    Frankston, VIC (Baxter)

    Ok, so not Karingal but more likely the BP service centres at Baxter?
     
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    Woollahra? Wow, the real estate prices there are sky-high!
    I wonder exactly where they are putting them?
     
  9. moa999

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    The pin is in the middle of Centennial Park!
    I'd say 80% Westfield Bondi Junction (consistent with the other two Sydney superchargers in big malls)
    10% Eastpoint Bondi junction
    10% the Wilson/Council carpark on Grafton St underneath the expressway and opposite Westfield.
     
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  10. jamesgo

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    It's cause our per km tax is coming in from July so they know people won't want to travel far to charge up.
     
  11. qiSun

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    Look at this map, wonder what is wrong with South Western Sydney? No fast charger to be seen

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  12. moa999

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    Not quite sure the relevance to the Sydney Tesla thread. The simple answer is if you live in Sydney - the assumption is you can mostly charge at home.

    If driving through Sydney Broadway and Macquarie are likely sufficient (particularly if you add Evie Seven Hills).

    That said per today's announcement Tesla has a Homebush site planned, as well as Woollahra.

    And Evie has Edmondson Park, Penrith and Sutherland
     
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    Some of us don’t live in Sydney, but travel there every weekend, and can’t easily charge to get back out of Sydney.

    I have to run an extension cable from a block of flats there, to on-street parking, across 2 footpaths with rubber door mats and witches hats for safety. It’d be really nice if someone would kindly install some DC chargers south of the latte line. The lack of suburban sites today was disappointing.
     
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  14. qiSun

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    As a visitor from Canberra, I've been waiting for Evie Edmondson Park.
    Hang around SW Sydney and go back to Canberra in a day and unlikely to drive further in for a charge.
    Fast chargers are very useful at the city border for visitors, they top up there then browse the place and top up again on the way home.
     
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    Actually would be so amazing. Hopefully Tesla doesn't use Australia as a dumping ground for old V2 hardware.
     
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    We won't know till they start rolling out. Also depends on the power available.

    Arguably you'd say Tesla would be better switching the more popular sites to v3 (I expect most on National Route 1) and shift the v2 units to some of these newer sites, but that requires substantial rework of cables and cabinets.

    Note also that the v3 sites in Europe are CCS2 only, so not usable for older S/X owners unless they've had the upgrade and have the adapter.
     
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  18. QBN_PC

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    Remember that in Australia, large power users pay for electricity on a demand tariff - based mostly on the peak rate the site could hypothetically draw at once. Plus there are absurd upfront costs. And constant negotiations with recalcitrant landlords. Plus payment to said landlords.

    There are 168 hours a week. V3 doesn’t make much sense here unless each unit will have a car plugged into it and charging for a substantial number of those hours.

    I drove past Goulburn supercharger this arvo, on the way to Chargefox. One supercharger stall was in use. Come back when you consistently see most stalls in use all day and a couple in use late at night.

    Any sooner and you’re giving them an excuse for another hike in the tariff. They’re too expensive already.
     
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    Albeit given the demand tariffs, the more usage they get, the more that can be spread - so prices can shift back.
     
  20. Chuq

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    This is just me speculating, but from when V3 was first announced one of the benefits was that the architecture integrated much better with battery storage, so in the event that massive demand charges was the issue (and they really were *that* high - such that battery storage was cheaper) then the sites could be designed to suit.
     
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