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Tesla 3 crashes into overturned truck on highway
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Tam
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Model 3 has 3 brake lights: Left Rear, Right Rear, and Center Rear which is just inside the center bottom of the rear window. All 3 were dark:
We could clearly see 2 brake lights on for another car (greycolor):
2 last dark cars: 1 with left brake light on, the other with both on:
But does it really? It passes through things like fiberglass, which the roof of most box trucks like that are made out of for weight savings and to let light in, and then someone said it was filled with cardboard boxes, which will likely absorb radar.
So this is a case where LiDAR would work better than radar. (But the cameras should be capable of detecting it.)
Actually the driver should be able to detect it. We don't have FSD. We only have driver assist systems.
MXLRplus
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Cameras can detect obstacles that radar cannot.
But I guarantee you that a semi trailer makes a radar signature. Even if the roof is missing.
But I guarantee you that a semi trailer makes a radar signature. Even if the roof is missing.
Tam
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The Model 3 red brake LED lights are very directional, I wonder if they can be seen from that distance and angle?
Not directional because I could see the brake lights from even extreme angles in bright midday sunlight:
Watts_Up
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Tam
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That's a real problem that hopefully, technology will be able to do that reliably for humans some day.
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That sure looks like Los Pollos Hermanos in the 2nd pic ... Sleepy Driver could find an Easter Egg kilo of complementary meth lodged somewhere in his wreck after spraying down that irresistible sauce!
Looks very much like the classic phenomenon that a tech-enthused Tesla driver was zoned out for at least 15 critical seconds while on AP @70mph, possibly relying on the "HillyBilly L3 Upgrade Package" aka an orange or whatever jammed in the steering wheel while tending to email.
Luckily for him, he hit a nice soft target and survived unscathed.
Since the Model 3 first went on sale in Taiwan in mid-August 2019, this should be a HW3 vehicle, with recent sw but would be interesting to have that confirmed.
In any case these incidents are always deeply embarrassing for Tesla owners (though the company manages to hide any it may feel very well), as my HW3 with 2020.16.2.1 still phantom-brakes quite regularly for stationary objects like gantry signs on the motorway, but when you actually need it to do so, there's no bloody chance.
It all inspires high confidence that Tesla RoboTaxi will not be done anytime this side of 2024.
Luckily for him, he hit a nice soft target and survived unscathed.
Since the Model 3 first went on sale in Taiwan in mid-August 2019, this should be a HW3 vehicle, with recent sw but would be interesting to have that confirmed.
In any case these incidents are always deeply embarrassing for Tesla owners (though the company manages to hide any it may feel very well), as my HW3 with 2020.16.2.1 still phantom-brakes quite regularly for stationary objects like gantry signs on the motorway, but when you actually need it to do so, there's no bloody chance.
It all inspires high confidence that Tesla RoboTaxi will not be done anytime this side of 2024.
No problem of Phantom braking on my S75D AP2.5 since 2020.16.2.1 very stable version on tunels. Just to remember on HW3 is the 1.0 FSD software soon this version change to a complete new version of FSD built only for HW3 hardware. I think is the problem !Looks very much like the classic phenomenon that a tech-enthused Tesla driver was zoned out for at least 15 critical seconds while on AP @70mph, possibly relying on the "HillyBilly L3 Upgrade Package" aka an orange or whatever jammed in the steering wheel while tending to email.
Luckily for him, he hit a nice soft target and survived unscathed.
Since the Model 3 first went on sale in Taiwan in mid-August 2019, this should be a HW3 vehicle, with recent sw but would be interesting to have that confirmed.
In any case these incidents are always deeply embarrassing for Tesla owners (though the company manages to hide any it may feel very well), as my HW3 with 2020.16.2.1 still phantom-brakes quite regularly for stationary objects like gantry signs on the motorway, but when you actually need it to do so, there's no bloody chance.
It all inspires high confidence that Tesla RoboTaxi will not be done anytime this side of 2024.
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The fact that the M3 never deviated from dead-centre of the lane, even in the final 30m for the truck-driver who was stood intruding significantly into the lane to wave traffic down and had to jump back in the last second to avoid being clipped by the wing mirror, confirms for me that autosteer was indeed active.
No sane human with his eyes on the road would ever drive like that, trying for a high-score of hitting the human & the truck.
People like this should really be prosecuted for reckless driving and/or refused insurance cover and made to foot the bill for the damages caused.
No sane human with his eyes on the road would ever drive like that, trying for a high-score of hitting the human & the truck.
People like this should really be prosecuted for reckless driving and/or refused insurance cover and made to foot the bill for the damages caused.
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DanCar
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If you analyze the video frame by frame, it is obvious the Model 3 was slowing down starting after it passes the truck driver. Perhaps regen braking. The distance traveled between frames grows smaller and smaller after the truck driver. It is also obvious to me for another reason: if the Model 3 hadn't slowed down the damage would have been much more.
The picture showing no brake lights shows the vehicle way before it reached the truck driver. The forward view shows smoke from the tires at about the position of the driver, indicating braking, so it would not make sense to see brake lights before that. After the Tesla passes the driver the rear is somewhat obscured by reflected sunlight, however it appears to me that the driver’s side brake light is visible through the glare.
There should be no smoke from tires, due to ABS, and braking with full force at that point should have (just about) stopped the M3 short of impact in any case.
Someone remarked above that this "smoke" is probably spray generated from a fluid/powder spilled on the road by the truck when it tipped over, e.g. the Pollos Hermanos sauce which covered the front of M3 when it entered the truck, see photos above.
MXLRplus
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Tam
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Like many others have stated, it's not brake smoke.
Prior to the collision, there's no white substance from the other side of the truck, opposite from the collision side. The Model 3 started to look like it was gliding on white powder, first with the left front wheel, leaving a trail behind:
After the collision, it can't be brake smoke because of the huge size of the plume and also, additional white substance spilled over to the road from this angle as well:
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