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Tesla and AT&T Multi-Year Car Connectivity Agreement

100thMonkey

Member
Jul 1, 2012
922
2
Seattle area
sure wish they'd go with Verizon so we'd get coverage in remote parts of the state... the only reason I ended up on AT&T was to get the original iphone, the data and phone service got dropped a lot. since switching back to verizon, the service has been virtually uninterrupted and great all the way around.
 

markb1

Active Member
Feb 17, 2012
3,031
638
San Diego, CA
sure wish they'd go with Verizon so we'd get coverage in remote parts of the state... the only reason I ended up on AT&T was to get the original iphone, the data and phone service got dropped a lot. since switching back to verizon, the service has been virtually uninterrupted and great all the way around.

It's pretty lame that we don't get to choose our provider. But perhaps Tesla will be able to negotiate a really sweet deal for us with AT&T. (I'm not holding my breath.)
 

chickensevil

Active Member
Jan 2, 2014
4,139
261
Virginia, United States
Yes this isn't "new" but it is a new contract... So they might have changed the pricing and the plans and such to better lock in what they will do when they inevitably start charging for the service to the customers (you and I).

It's pretty lame that we don't get to choose our provider. But perhaps Tesla will be able to negotiate a really sweet deal for us with AT&T. (I'm not holding my breath.)

I'm sure someday someone will look to hack their device to see if they can swap the cards in the car and force it over to verizon. Especially when they charge people for the service.
 

Discoducky

Happy owner of a P100D X and a brand new 2021 M3!
Dec 25, 2011
3,345
2,615
Seattle
I'm happy to keep paying $0 for 3G in the Model S and possible <$10/month on Model X for LTE if anyone is listening.
 

772

Member
Oct 9, 2013
712
2
Iowa
Lucky AT&T. First the iPhone/iPad, now the Model S/Model X.

In practicality, I don't even use the GPS that much -- only if I am going on a road trip to somewhere unfamiliar, and I don't have the time to look up anything about the location. Having a web browser in the car is nice... but again something I rarely bother to use in practice. Not something I would pay $15/month, and possibly on a c:rolleyes:ntract.

Even without the data plan, I would still get the Tech package.. it's not just about the nav usage.
 
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strider

Active Member
Oct 20, 2010
3,516
759
NE Oklahoma
sure wish they'd go with Verizon so we'd get coverage in remote parts of the state... the only reason I ended up on AT&T was to get the original iphone, the data and phone service got dropped a lot. since switching back to verizon, the service has been virtually uninterrupted and great all the way around.
If you last used AT&T with a 3G radio you will be pleasantly surprised by their 4G coverage. I find it superior to Verizon here in NorCal. 3G however is terrible. I realize that doesn't help us w/ MS's but will help future owners.
 

qwk

P130DL
Dec 19, 2008
3,024
766
The problem Tesla will have with ATT is their horrible coverage. If you take a drive anywhere out of metropolitan areas using superchargers, there will be no coverage. Not many will pay for that kind of service.
 

sp4rk

Banned
Apr 25, 2012
1,219
3
Schaumburg, IL
The problem Tesla will have with ATT is their horrible coverage. If you take a drive anywhere out of metropolitan areas using superchargers, there will be no coverage. Not many will pay for that kind of service.
I'd pay anything to avoid ATT. Use Verizon now. ATT is stuck in the 1980's. If they negotiated a cheap contract, you know ATT will have skimped. We should have a choice. The car isn't cheap, I feel like Tesla is selling us out.
 

yobigd20

Well-Known Member
Oct 28, 2012
5,925
528
Skaneateles, NY
I'd pay anything to avoid ATT. Use Verizon now. ATT is stuck in the 1980's. If they negotiated a cheap contract, you know ATT will have skimped. We should have a choice. The car isn't cheap, I feel like Tesla is selling us out.

Yep. AT&T blows around here too. Disconnected calls allllll the time. I switched to Verizon. Haven't dropped a single call since.
 

Plug Me In

Member
Nov 29, 2012
590
22
Central Virginia
I'm assuming AT+T is what we've had all along and coverage has been pretty good for me. I've driven through the sticks in south central VA and eastern NC numerous times and only lose my google map and slacker for brief periods.
 

dsm363

Roadster + Sig Model S
May 17, 2009
18,278
151
Nevada
I haven't found AT&T 3G coverage to be that bad. As anything, depends on where you live of course. Don't have a Verizon phone to compare it to though.
 

Chris TX

Active Member
Sep 30, 2013
1,531
186
Dallas, TX
The month they start charging for AT&T 3G/4G in my car is the time I get a USB powered Verizon 4G LTE WiFi hot spot. I'll use that until we can figure out a way to hack/change the cell radio in the dash. It's killing me inside to not have already torn that thing apart to see the guts. I bet it's something as simple as a USB dongle that snaps into the motherboard. A boy can dream ;)
 

chickensevil

Active Member
Jan 2, 2014
4,139
261
Virginia, United States
The month they start charging for AT&T 3G/4G in my car is the time I get a USB powered Verizon 4G LTE WiFi hot spot. I'll use that until we can figure out a way to hack/change the cell radio in the dash. It's killing me inside to not have already torn that thing apart to see the guts. I bet it's something as simple as a USB dongle that snaps into the motherboard. A boy can dream ;)

Given that they are using NVidia stuff inside (mobile platform) I would be willing to bet it is a low profile daughter board like it is in laptops. But it is also entirely possible that it is actually built into the main board itself which would mean no upgrade path at all.

Edit: If it is a card like this (which would not surprise me at all) then it would just be a matter of switching it out and activating the service
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...T&cid=262077&lid=4742363&acd=1230980731501410
 

Brett

Member
Jul 10, 2013
240
47
Los Angeles
The month they start charging for AT&T 3G/4G in my car is the time I get a USB powered Verizon 4G LTE WiFi hot spot. I'll use that until we can figure out a way to hack/change the cell radio in the dash. It's killing me inside to not have already torn that thing apart to see the guts. I bet it's something as simple as a USB dongle that snaps into the motherboard. A boy can dream ;)

Even if you could swap it out, the Tesla software could have code like this:

if (wifi == false && IsAttIpAddress(ipAddress) == false) {
Display "invalid data path";
return;
}

Where they have a way of detecting if it's on the ATT network or not and they have protection around it.

In Los Angeles the ATT network is pretty good now. I had maybe 2 dropped calls in 2013.
 

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