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Tesla autopilot HW3

scarelli

Member
Aug 7, 2019
19
13
Pennsylvania
Ok, I can’t keep the ginormous secret any longer. I received the HW3 upgrade for my 2.0 Model S a week ago. I haven’t said anything because I was sworn to secrecy by Tesla. Fortunately they probably can’t track me through this website so they will never know.

I realize some of you have been waiting for over three years for any FSD features but what the heck. Some of us get the elevator while others get the shaft. Must be really dark down there?


Proof??
 

JthePilot

New Member
Feb 19, 2020
2
4
Phoenix
Just as important as when the first AP2.0 to AP3.0 happens, is when the first MCU1-fitted S or X gets AP3.0. To my knowledge, that still has yet to happen. I would like to know if Tesla even has an ETA on that.
 
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TrevTremaine

Active Member
Mar 27, 2016
1,110
732
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Just as important as when the first AP2.0 to AP3.0 happens, is when the first MCU1-fitted S or X gets AP3.0. To my knowledge, that still has yet to happen. I would like to know if Tesla even has an ETA on that.

I'm waiting to hear likewise. All I've heard is conjecture. Supposedly, a guy in Canada had the work done, but it's supposed to be kept quiet. There's no timeline other than 2-3 months Tesla mentioned after the rollout begins (so, I think about another month or 2). I'm not hearing anything further which only raises more questions than answers. It's unclear what work would need to be done to bring AP3.0 up to fully operational - does it require just the AP unit, or the suite of sensors/cameras upgraded, does it also need a new MCU?

I'm hoping for the whole shabang, but not holding my breath to get any of it before my lease is up next year.
 
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BozieBeMe2

May I have this dance?
Apr 7, 2015
548
594
Indy, Indiana, USA
I'm waiting to hear likewise. All I've heard is conjecture. Supposedly, a guy in Canada had the work done, but it's supposed to be kept quiet. There's no timeline other than 2-3 months Tesla mentioned after the rollout begins (so, I think about another month or 2). I'm not hearing anything further which only raises more questions than answers. It's unclear what work would need to be done to bring AP3.0 up to fully operational - does it require just the AP unit, or the suite of sensors/cameras upgraded, does it also need a new MCU?

I'm hoping for the whole shabang, but not holding my breath to get any of it before my lease is up next year.
When I say I LOVE MY CAR!!
I really mean it. The new models S's can't compare on the bling that the dark metallic blue, with chrome gives you.
With all that said, I've given up on trying to get the sluggish, non responsive browser to work.
Now, the wifi refuses to connect and the car won't see the OTA updates as they are offered. Yes, I have contacted service for help and they did manage to get the browser to work for a few moments - Yea! The wifi, not so much
The car is 5 years old and has never had an issue except for the 12v battery and air bag replacements.
I have never had a drive unit fault, a screen turn yellow, or the MCU1 lock up. Heck, even my range is within 2 miles of when new, 265.
No abnormal tire wear or anything!
I am sure it has led a charmed life and rather sit and wait for inevitable to fail or 'GASP', have my MCU replaced, we decided to trade it in for the new LR+ model S. I will say, we were rather surprised that the car's resale value was so low. Far more that I had thought it would be.
I hope all of you manage to get the newer MCU and the newer lease on the car's life, as for me, I'm getting too old to wait that long
 

drift

Member
Jan 1, 2018
142
167
Meridian, Ms
Just as important as when the first AP2.0 to AP3.0 happens, is when the first MCU1-fitted S or X gets AP3.0. To my knowledge, that still has yet to happen. I would like to know if Tesla even has an ETA on that.
Can someone please tell me what the MCU has to do with FSD? Elon say it has nothing to do with FSD.
 
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TrevTremaine

Active Member
Mar 27, 2016
1,110
732
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Can someone please tell me what the MCU has to do with FSD? Elon say it has nothing to do with FSD.

It's unclear right now. Nothing has been stated by Tesla directly, it may be an issue over the cameras and sensor arrays, but who knows whether there may be some bottleneck occurring with the MCU. Until upgrades start happening it'll all be speculative.
 

JthePilot

New Member
Feb 19, 2020
2
4
Phoenix
Can someone please tell me what the MCU has to do with FSD? Elon say it has nothing to do with FSD.

I've had a Tesla representative tell me, in so many words, that the MCU has nothing to do with the AP. However, I've yet to hear /read about any MCU1 S or X getting the AP3.0 retrofit, which I find odd. So the question is, why are they only retrofitting the MCU2 cars first, especially when there are customers that have purchased the FSD as long as three years ago?

I have an MCU1 AP2.5 S and had work done in the SC last week, but they still say my car isn't tagged for it yet.
 

daniel

Active Member
May 7, 2009
4,852
3,667
Kihei, HI
Musk should just agree to refund (with 5% interest*) the money that people paid for FSD before he changed the definition of FSD from "It can pick up your kids by itself" to "Feature-complete Level 2 BETA feature that might work some of the time." Musk was wrong when he said those early cars had all the necessary hardware, and it seems more and more questionable whether they can be upgraded to the necessary hardware. And I don't believe that even the 2020 cars have sufficient hardware to drive around the city without a person in the driver's seat.

* 5% is the interest Tesla pays me on my solar bonds from the former Solar City. (Ten-year unsecured, non-negotiable bonds, not redeemable before maturity.) I think it's a reasonable amount to pay for the money people gave Tesla under the false premise that their cars had all the hardware needed for full autonomy.

And Tesla should break out EAP from FSD so that people can get EAP, which is real and exists, without having to pay for FSD, which might not exist for another decade.
 

dgatwood

Member
Dec 20, 2017
833
931
Sunnyvale, ca
Can someone please tell me what the MCU has to do with FSD? Elon say it has nothing to do with FSD.

AFAIK, the MCU handles the mapping portion of the navigate-on-autopilot functionality, deciding whether to take exits and similar. Also, the MCU handles downloading firmware updates and pushing them to the AP computer. Both of those things will likely require at least some minor code changes on the MCU side of things.
 

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