Tesla autopilot HW3

[theBurtReynold]

Quick (I think) clarification question for @jimmy_d

The camera agnostic neural network you've mentioned ... does this mean that, by necessity, such a NN would have weights to standardize the raw input data (AKA: correct for differences in the focal length, lens shape, ISO sensitivity of the video sensor)?

Thank you!

 

[DrDabbles]

Quick (I think) clarification question for @jimmy_d

The camera agnostic neural network you've mentioned ... does this mean that, by necessity, such a NN would have weights to standardize the raw input data (AKA: correct for differences in the focal length, lens shape, ISO sensitivity of the video sensor)?

Thank you!

I would presume all of the sensors are the same and that only the optics are different. Is that not the case?

 

[BeesKnees]

Would not surprise me if they fiddled with the gain on wide vs narrow field to optimize dynamic range.

 

[verygreen]

Would not surprise me if they fiddled with the gain on wide vs narrow field to optimize dynamic range.

not really, they just adjust it on the fly as light conditions change.

 

[BeesKnees]

not really, they just adjust it on the fly as light conditions change.

Dynamic. Check. I’m an astronomer and tend to keep things locked down for a given run. Allows for serious calibration.

 

[lunitiks]

I would presume all of the sensors are the same and that only the optics are different. Is that not the case?

Yeah it’s not. All cams but backup cam uses Aptina sensors while the buc uses an Omnivision/ON Semi sensor.

 

[verygreen]

Yeah it’s not. All cams but backup cam uses Aptina sensors while the buc uses an Omnivision/ON Semi sensor.

except on the model3 it looks like the backup cam is also aptina

 

[DrDabbles]

except on the model3 it looks like the backup cam is also aptina

Yeah, I was pretty sure Model 3 used the same sensors everywhere. I guess I need do better to keep in mind that S and X can also get HW3 upgrades and not just vehicles with HW2.5.

 

[lunitiks]

Anyone with a brand spanking new M3 that's willing to put in some elbow grease?

https://electrek.co/2019/01/23/tesla-self-driving-autopilot-hardware-3-0-computer-model-3/

 

[timewasted]

I'm unfortunately lacking a brand spanking new Model 3, but I do see option code APH4 mentioned on the Model S configuration page. Of course this information isn't exactly helpful because for all I know it's been there for at least 3 months, if not 6 months at this point. Clearly someone needs to camp out at the service center and offer to helpfully disassemble a new owner's car. "That feature that you're looking for is behind the glove box right here. Let me just demonstrate how to access it..."

 

[timewasted]

It doesn't seem like I can edit my previous post, so I suppose I'll just make a new one.

I should probably clarify that Tesla likes to redirect me to the Austrian German version of the configurator (Konfigurieren) because some geo-ip database somewhere is hilariously wrong. This is the only page that I've actually seen mention the APH4 code. It's buried in some JSON data on the site, under the "tesla" -> "optionGroup" key:

{
  "name": "AUTOPILOT_HARDWARE",
  "group_details": {
    "exclusive": false,
    "required_for_build": false,
    "options": [
      {
        "code": "APH3",
        "upgrade_rank": null
      },
      {
        "code": "APH4",
        "upgrade_rank": null
      },
      {
        "code": "APH0",
        "upgrade_rank": null
      },
      {
        "code": "APH2",
        "upgrade_rank": null
      }
    ]
  }
}

 

[iTech]

I'm in no way attacking him, giving an honest critique. But okay I will make an in-depth analysis when i get off work.

Was this ever posted?

 

[verygreen]

Was this ever posted?

the latest status update was:

Busy Saturday, planning a lengthy write up soon.

So I think in three months maybe, 6 months definitely ...

 

[electronblue]

@iTech @verygreen

Well @Bladerskb was in a major car totalling accident right afterwards. Was Elon?

 

[DrDabbles]

@iTech @verygreen

Well @Bladerskb was in a major car totalling accident right afterwards. Was Elon?

I like busting someone's chops just as much as the next person, but is @Bladerskb okay?

 

[verygreen]

@iTech @verygreen

Well @Bladerskb was in a major car totalling accident right afterwards. Was Elon?

really? I have no idea he was. How do you know?

 

[Bladerskb]

Was this ever posted?

nah i got into a accident (totaled car) that same week which threw everything into a flux. Fast forward to today, i no longer have the desire to do my writeup because of lack of activity in the thread.

really? I have no idea he was. How do you know?

Yeah i posted it here;
Firmware 9 in August will start rolling out full self-driving features!!!

I like busting someone's chops just as much as the next person, but is @Bladerskb okay?

Yeah i'm good, no injuries thank goodness.

 

[verygreen]

i no longer have the desire to do my writeup because of lack of activity in the thread.

Well, of course there's no activity, there's no new material, and we were hoping you would add some!

Also on an unrelated note I see you were not driving your model 3 on that fateful day? Why not?

 

[strangecosmos]

Do Tesla’s new patent applications shed any light on Hardware 3?

From Electrek: Tesla applies for series of patents for new AI chip in Autopilot Hardware 3.0

 

[J1mbo]

Do Tesla’s new patent applications shed any light on Hardware 3?

From Electrek: Tesla applies for series of patents for new AI chip in Autopilot Hardware 3.0

Seems like the chip will be more than a dedicated TPU from the patents?