Tesla BEV Competition Developments

[SwTslaGrl]

Ford calls time on eco-car participation
Local auto market has turned lukewarm
"US carmaker Ford Motor Co has finally decided to withdraw from the government's eco-car scheme, saying the incentive models do not have enough potential to be keen on eco-friendly models."
"We had to re-evaluate the overall sentiment in the industry and consider which segments we are good at, and we decided not to renew the eco-car privileges," said Ms Yukontorn.

Ford calls time on eco-car participation

 

[wdolson]

Ford calls time on eco-car participation
Local auto market has turned lukewarm
"US carmaker Ford Motor Co has finally decided to withdraw from the government's eco-car scheme, saying the incentive models do not have enough potential to be keen on eco-friendly models."
"We had to re-evaluate the overall sentiment in the industry and consider which segments we are good at, and we decided not to renew the eco-car privileges," said Ms Yukontorn.

Ford calls time on eco-car participation

I notice that's a Bangkok news site. I assume it's some sort of Thai program?

 

[SwTslaGrl]

I notice that's a Bangkok news site. I assume it's some sort of Thai program?

Yes, It's a Thai eco-car program. I thought it was interesting as it's a regional hub for car manufacturers and the Ford decision could be a trend?

 

[RobStark]

The Automobile 2.0: Chevrolet Bolt EV vs Nissan Leaf vs Tesla Model 3 Long Range - Motor Trend

Taking all these factors into consideration, our finishing order in this first-ever comparison test of affordable long-range electric vehicles: Tesla Model 3 first, then the Chevrolet Bolt and Nissan Leaf. True, this is a $60,500 Model 3—but some say magic is priceless. Hey, Tesla fans, are your hands still up?

 

[Spidy]

Porsche Mission E spotted testing in winter conditions

 

[RobStark]

Jalopnik's 2018 Nissan LEAF review

https://jalopnik.com/the-2018-nissan-leaf-is-an-electric-car-for-calm-ratio-1821094905

How is it to drive?

For this car, this question is like asking how the experience of your new fridge keeping your milk from spoiling is—it just does it, and there’s very little to engage you about the process.

 

[SwTslaGrl]

This sounds like current Tesla services

Honda, Alibaba to develop cars for online services
3 Jan 2018 at 19:55
WRITER: KYODO NEWS

TOKYO: Honda Motor Co will jointly develop connected cars with Alibaba Group Holding Ltd to offer online services to drivers.

Japan's third-largest automaker by volume and the Chinese e-commerce giant will aim to launch online payments for fuel, parking and other services in China through the jointly developed cars, the Japanese carmaker said on Tuesday.

Global automakers are focusing on connected cars with internet access to provide drivers with online settlement, shared traffic information and other advanced services.

Honda is hoping to attract more customers in China, the world's biggest auto market, through the tie-up.

Among other similar joint operations, the Japanese carmaker and SoftBank Group Corp said in November that they plan to develop connected cars that would provide drivers with a wide range of information, including about traffic conditions and nearby accidents.

The two Japanese companies aim to strengthen connected car technology by adopting speedier 5G next-generation mobile communications.

Honda, Alibaba to develop cars for online services

 

[RobStark]

In Dec 2016 Elon predicted GM would sell 24k Bolts in the USA in 2017 to meet its CARB and CAFE obligations.

After another "record breaking month" GM sold 23,297 Bolts for the 2017.

 

[BornToFly]

GM proved this year that Tesla has no competition. The Bears keep saying that the established automakers have the money, the knowledge, and the factories to crush Tesla as soon as they start making EVs. Well, GM had a NINE MONTH head start on the Model 3. After a full year of production, they sold less than 24,000 vehicles (which is less than 1,000/week production currently). I predict that Tesla will produce at least 250,000 3s this year. So even after starting 9 months after GM, Tesla will sell at least TEN TIMES as many cars as GM (who had a head start). It is shocking that the shorts can look at this information, and STILL believe that Tesla will fail. As for me, I bought even more stock today.

 

[RobStark]

VW CEO said one of their advantages over Tesla is that they can produce a million cars, no problem.

Seems they can't fill demand for the Golf GTE in the UK and have halted orders. That is a PHEV with an itty bitty battery. What happens when they try to fill demand for ID Cross and ID Buzz?

 

[wdolson]

Most established car makers can produce 1 million cars a year, but Tesla is the only car maker on the world market with enough batteries to make more than about 50K BEV a year. It's about the batteries.

 

[replicant]

Ex-Google, Tesla Driverless Car Czars Partner With VW, Hyundai

Aurora -- a startup formed by one-time heads of autonomous car projects at Google parent Alphabet Inc. and Tesla Inc. -- will develop self-driving electric vehicles with Volkswagen AG and Hyundai Motor Co., the two automakers said in separate statements. The car companies, latecomers to the technology upending the sector, are exploring using the self-driving systems for taxi services, robotic deliveries and even in-car advertising.

Urmson then recruited Sterling Anderson, the former head of Tesla’s Autopilot, a driver assistance system. Tesla sued Anderson, now Aurora’s chief product officer, in January 2017 for breach of contract by joining Aurora, and subsequently dropped the lawsuit in April.

This seems big. When do you expect VW to start crowdsourcing data from vehicles sold to customers?

 

[dalalsid]

VW CEO said one of their advantages over Tesla is that they can produce a million cars, no problem.

It just means they can but they don't want to.

 

[Model 3]

It just means they can but they don't want to.

They can - and do - produce a million cars, no problem. What they don't - and that they can't - is to produce a million battery electric cars with a decent range: They do not have the batteries or any means to get them.

 

[alloverx]

plus they want to make a profit at some point

 

[schonelucht]

Audi announced start of production of the e-Tron full electric SUV for August of this year. Goal production for 2018 is 4700. They are also taking reservations for the first production cars for 2000EUR a piece.

 

[Saghost]

Audi announced start of production of the e-Tron full electric SUV for August of this year. Goal production for 2018 is 4700. They are also taking reservations for the first production cars for 2000EUR a piece.

It'll be interesting to see what happens as that date gets closer. VW/Audi has been the undisputed king of EV press releases and concepts with little indication of actual effort on their part so far.

 

[RobStark]

Tesla Bjorn Nyland parking lot review of BYD e6 in Thailand with short driving session around parking garage.

 

[neroden]

A Chinese company which isn't there yet but seems to understand the urgency: Tesla is a 'threat,' but we're 'more than up to the challenge,' Chinese start-up says

 

[JohnSnowNW]

Tesla Bjorn Nyland parking lot review of BYD e6 in Thailand with short driving session around parking garage.

Did he try accelerating from a stop whilst on a hill?

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