Tesla blog yesterday repeats 215 mile range estimate

[Candleflame]

There is no one point where all people get range anxiety. If the base battery size doesn't work for you personally, (at the final released spec, and your personal driving habits). Get the upgraded battery. Simple.

Thank you kindly.

The problem is that range is overinflated and a) EPA cycles overreward electric cars and b) Even if they wouldnt do that real world range is completly different.

In real life noone cares that their Sedan has 650km range instead of 870km. With electric cars the 25% range loss has a much bigger effect. And people already calculate range and fuel consumption in a way in their head.

Because electric cars are so new they can't do that (yet).

 

[Topher]

The problem is that range is overinflated

As you say EPA is different from real world. Everyone should know how their driving compares to their own particular driving. I, for example, get about 110% of EPA in summer and 94% in winter.

EPA cycles overreward electric cars

How?

With electric cars the 25% range loss has a much bigger effect.

Math disagrees.

because electric cars are so new they can't do that (yet).

The math is the same.

Thank you kindly.

 

[WarpedOne]

If m3 only comes with 215 range I am cannceling and not buying ms.
Just sayin' ...

 

[AnxietyRanger]

In real life noone cares that their Sedan has 650km range instead of 870km. With electric cars the 25% range loss has a much bigger effect. And people already calculate range and fuel consumption in a way in their head.

Math disagrees.

The math is the same.

@Candleflame has a point. The math is apples and oranges: EV consumption is more prone to normal weather and speed changes than ICE is. Charging network is sparser and charging takes longer, making replenishment a much more pressing issue. And most importantly, EVs currently have much less mileage to begin with than ICEs - going from 870 km to 650 km is one thing (not such a big deal), quite another to go from 400 km to 180 km, for example, because there was that much less buffer in the first place...

 

[AnxietyRanger]

If m3 only comes with 215 range

The likelihood of that is very low. A smaller battery option might, but even there I think they have squeezed some more than 215 (or simply made the smaller battery larger than planned). A larger battery option I would expect to clearly beat the Bolt at the very least.

 

[FlatSix911]

If m3 only comes with 215 range I am cannceling and not buying ms.
Just sayin' ...

The likelihood of that is very low. A smaller battery option might, but even there I think they have squeezed some more than 215 (or simply made the smaller battery larger than planned). A larger battery option I would expect to clearly beat the Bolt at the very least.

Dream on ... Tesla has repeatedly stated that the base Model 3 will have 215 miles of range

 

[aronth5]

Dream on ... Tesla has repeatedly stated that the base Model 3 will have 215 miles of range

Actually not really. Tesla has consistently said "at least" 215 miles of range including this weeks email. Most have interpreted that to mean range will be somewhat higher but we won't know actual range for awhile.

 

[FlatSix911]

Actually not really. Tesla has consistently said "at least" 215 miles of range including this weeks email. Most have interpreted that to mean range will be somewhat higher but we won't know actual range for awhile.

Good luck with that line of thinking

 

[JeffK]

Good luck with that line of thinking

I have to agree with this pic... I do want my EV powered by solar, unicorn farts, and rainbows.

 

[plankeye]

They're still keeping that powder dry!

 

[Snerruc]

One thing we can be sure of is that the lowest range 3 will be rated less than the lowest range S as that time, and the highest range will be less than the highest range S.

 

[boiler81]

One thing we can be sure of is that the lowest range 3 will be rated less than the lowest range S as that time, and the highest range will be less than the highest range S.

Yes, even if they have to software limit it

 

[plankeye]

One thing we can be sure of is that the lowest range 3 will be rated less than the lowest range S as that time, and the highest range will be less than the highest range S.

That's probably the biggest reason they dropped the MS60, so they could beat the Bolt's range, but not exceed the lowest S's range. I think they should switch the S and X to just two battery sizes, 80 and 100 and let the 3 be 55/75 or 60/75 or 55/70.

 

[Topher]

EV consumption is more prone to normal weather and speed changes than ICE is.

How exactly does that work? EVs are LESS concerned with speed changes, since they have regenerative braking.

Thank you kindly.

 

[cdub]

Elon said at the reveal it'd be at least 215 and they hope to exceed it.

 

[igotzzoom]

You know Elon won't be one-upped by the dorkmobile Bolt. Just wait...The June or July reveal event for the production model will be "250" followed by whoops and cheers from his adoring fans.

 

[cdub]

You know Elon won't be one-upped by the dorkmobile Bolt. Just wait...The June or July reveal event for the production model will be "250" followed by whoops and cheers from his adoring fans.

Not likely. The 75 S is 249. The base model 3 will be less than that.

 

[gregincal]

Dream on ... Tesla has repeatedly stated that the base Model 3 will have 215 miles of range

warped one said that he'd cancel if the Model 3 only came with 215 miles of range. While the base Model 3 might have that, they've definitely confirmed there will be a higher range version, so he can rest easy.

 

[igotzzoom]

Not likely. The 75 S is 249. The base model 3 will be less than that.

OK. 245. More than the Bolt's 238, less than the 75 S.

 

[JeffK]

OK. 245. More than the Bolt's 238, less than the 75 S.

Naw... the Model 3 75 kWh will have 300 mi range.