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Hi everyone, I need some suggestion and wisdom from you guys.

Since Nov 04 2021, My M3 has been running into a chain issues starting from the 12v battery failure, I used the app and booked an appointment for a remote service. after a few days a remote service guy came and tried to fix my problem. However, first thing he did was using screw driver and scooped out the tow panel (later I read on the tesla online manual, you don’t scoop it out like most car, you just need to push the upper right of the panel to open it, and of course he broke my tow cover and left a mark on my car) And then he pop the frunk and change the battery (and again he forgot to disconnect some cable under the back seats and did it later when it went all wrong) at the first the car power back on, but then we realized now the car is half paralyzed and can not put into drive mode even tow mode. he tried to do something with the 12v battery again (and broke my air intake part for the AC unit, I didn’t realize this until he left). He gave up and ask me to tow it. I called the tesla tow center and ended up wasted the day because the first guy can’t tow it with out putting it into tow mode, and the second tow company cancelled the tow without telling me and tesla tow center called me back to tell me they cancelled the tow. (One whole day wasted with the pay leave)

Second day a tow company finally towed my M3 and I went with the tow guy to the center and explained what happened. They returned my M3 back and did the recall for reseal front upper control arm ball joints after 4-5 days of waiting. (However, after they touched it, the power steering issue started, I just don’t know if it linked or all together with the battery issue not fully fixed)

Fist of all, when I went pick up my car, I realized my driver side windshield wiper is not rotating right and it will go all the way outside of my driver’s side window, I ask them to fix it right there, but then after I drove home, I realized there are more things they did do it right. There is a plastic cover right under the windshield, it should be “click” into the line gap on the edge of the lower windshield, it was not and barely connected, so I put them back myself (I should have take a picture before I did that) and then they have not fix my air intake park that was broken by the first remote service guy and all the air intake parts was just on top of the broken air intake parts not even click back together. (They surely did something here for the 12V battery issue but why they didn’t put everything correctly that beats me)

So, I have to spend other day off to get other remote service guy over to fix the air intake, this time was a young guy who knows his stuff. He told me he doesn’t have the parts with him (even tho I took the picture of the parts and sent the parts serial number to the center before the appointment date) and he didn’t get any update from the center where I sent the information and picture to. However, he still tried his best and used “M3” tape to tape the broken parts and temporary fixed the issue for me until he got the parts. At the same time, we also found little issue from the last repair, like wires not putting back to the wire holder. And here is one key information I got from him while I am chatting with him. He told me that they were expending way to fast on staff and a lot of new staff was not “well trained and they just don’t know how to fix tesla correctly yet” And he was one of the senior staff who need to give training to the new staff but the company did not give them time to do so.

Before this remote service appointment, I already started getting error message from my car which saying “steering assist reduced” but I thought it was ok because after I search internet, some say it might be caused by the cold weather and since it is starting to get cold here in Maryland, I didn’t mention it to the remote service guy. However, the nightmare starts from here.

First I started getting the same “steering assist reduced” message more frequently, to everyday when I started my M3, and then power steering will lose the power before I even drive out of my parking lot. I started messaging the tesla center but of course they gave me a long waiting appointment date. Until it happened while I was driving on the highway, and I must turn the power steering wheel lost the power. Luckily, I did not get into any accident, and during this time I found one way to fix it is to come out of the car (with my phone key or it wouldn’t work) closed the door and re-enter the car. Which I did, but then I realized how dangerous this becoming after a few trucks drove by while I got out of the car on the side of the road and reentering the car. I have to message the tesla center a couple time to ask if I can bring my car over since this issue is critical. And finally, after I asked them if they suggest me keeping driving until my appointment date (which is about other week or so) They ask me to tow my car to the center.

After all that, now it is Jan 2022, my car started the same issue while I was going to drive my family and my son’s friend, luckily it happens in the parking lot, not on the highway.

My next appointment was scheduled on Jan 13 because they don’t have time to take my car and they also stopped responding to me. Since this is all under warranty, can I just tow my car to the center and ask them to give me a loaners car or Uber credit? I really need a car to work next week. Please help me out and shared your wisdom with me. Thank you!
 
Good luck. My car has been in a service center for about three weeks now without a real solution to the blown pyro fuse. They have workers calling in sick so they aren't able to further diagnose it. Also, uber does not drive in my area and they wouldn't give me a loaner so I have had to bum rides or rent a car out of pocket. Fingers crossed both of our vehicles are fixed soon!

Just realized we are both from Maryland and likely using the same service center...
lol I guess we are in the same shoes here .... Good luck to both of us indeed.
 
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My next appointment was scheduled on Jan 13 because they don’t have time to take my car and they also stopped responding to me. Since this is all under warranty, can I just tow my car to the center and ask them to give me a loaners car or Uber credit? I really need a car to work next week. Please help me out and shared your wisdom with me. Thank you!
You can definitely tow the car to a Tesla SC at any time, but getting them to work on it or give you a loaner will be a crap shoot. It doesn't hurt to ask, but be prepared to walk away with nothing. Therefore, I would line-up a "plan B" via either a personal car rental arrangement, or have someone pick-you up from the SC with another car.

Personally, I find Uber credits worthless, as I live in the suburbs and Ubers are either rare, late, or just never show up.
~10% of the time I took my Tesla for service, I got a loaner. The other ~90% of the time I had someone in my family pick me up in a spare car.

Which brings me to the last point - you really want the Tesla to be your 2nd or 3rd car. For the reasons OP had run into, and the ones I've stated above.
Given the present state of SC appointment delays (which are only getting longer), you simply can't rely on a Tesla vehicle to be available to meet your transportation requirements 100% of the time.

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Wow, this is one of the biggest messes I have read on this forum.
You may just have a “Lemon”. Check the lemon law in your state, I think there is a booklet you can download from the Tesla site with your state. Good luck.
Thank you I did check the Lemon but it has be be within 2 years and under 18000 mils, which my M3 just passed the 2 years mark and is about 23000 mils.
 
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You can definitely tow the car to a Tesla SC at any time, but getting them to work on it or give you a loaner will be a crap shoot. It doesn't hurt to ask, but be prepared to walk away with nothing. Therefore, I would line-up a "plan B" via either a personal car rental arrangement, or have someone pick-you up from the SC with another car.

Personally, I find Uber credits worthless, as I live in the suburbs and Ubers are either rare, late, or just never show up.
~10% of the time I took my Tesla for service, I got a loaner. The other ~90% of the time I had someone in my family pick me up in a spare car.

Which brings me to the last point - you really want the Tesla to be your 2nd or 3rd car. For the reasons OP had run into, and the ones I've stated above.
Given the present state of SC appointment delays (which are only getting longer), you simply can't rely on a Tesla vehicle to be available to meet your transportation requirements 100% of the time.

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But if the issue is under the warranty do I have the right to ask them to provide me a way to travel even tho they can't take my car at this moment? Since it is really my fault and they should take care me if their product is not working?

I do have other car but my wife need it for her work too : / that is why I have to find a way to be able to get a answer from Tesla SC and saddly they are just not helping me.

Last couple time they gave me Uber credit, because they have no loaners car what so ever. It is still better than no car.
I just want to know if it is my right to ask them to provide me transportation for this issue.
 
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Typical clown show. I would try to work with a different SC altogether if possible, but to your question, it wouldn’t hurt to ask them for a loaner.
Tell me about it, I stay to the same one because the second nearest SC is the one first remote service guy came from. I am just afraid to use them as well. Secondly, this same SC is the one caused this issue they "should" know what went wrong from the first time when they touch it but I guess I was wrong.
 
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really? did you find a document says that? I am just asking, at least I will stop asking SC to provide me transportation since it is not officially documented.

I would turn around and ask you to provide documentation that shows that tesla is "obligated" to provide you with transportation. I dont think there is anything written that they are obligated to provide anything. If you find something, perhaps post it for others.

If they dont specifically say "we will do X" then there is no obligation. Doesnt mean they will or wont, but you seem to be asking if you can drive down and "demand" transportation. You can ask, you cant demand, because there is no obligation, unless you can provide something that says there is an obligation somewhere.

To be clear, I am not saying they shouldnt, I am just saying they dont "have" to, so if your plan is to "demand" you might want to re think it, and "ask" instead.

You said ask, but also said " do I have the right to" and of course anyone can always ask for whatever they want to.
 
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really? did you find a document says that? I am just asking, at least I will stop asking SC to provide me transportation since it is not officially documented.
You can always ask (so why not ask anyways?), but they are not required to provide it under the warranty terms. But at minimum in my experience, even when they run out of loaners they provide Uber credits, which is better than nothing.
 
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I just want to thank you all who reply back to my post, I first post on facebook but all I got was none sense comment not related to my question, such as TLDR, go write a book, you are rude to the SC no wonder they don't reply you such such. Thank you guys for even reading my post, I guess now those days you can't really rely on facebook or social media for help.
 
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But if the issue is under the warranty do I have the right to ask them to provide me a way to travel even tho they can't take my car at this moment? Since it is really my fault and they should take care me if their product is not working?

No, not really.
And since the auto OEM (Tesla) owns the service centers (SC) lock stock and barrel, there is no-one at the SC that really can "go to bat for you" and try to help out beyond what the OEM policies mandate that they do. In other words, all complaints and service issues (major or frivolous) go into the same work queue, and they will get to you when they'll get to you.
In my area, service appointments slots are 4 weeks out. Whether you want to change a wiper insert, or your car is undriveable.

I do have other car but my wife need it for her work too : / that is why I have to find a way to be able to get a answer from Tesla SC and saddly they are just not helping me.

That's the other thing - getting any kind of an answer out of Tesla takes an act of God. Or tweet to Elon and hope that he responds.
Local SC's don't have direct phone lines, direct emails, or any other forms of direct communication. I did find that driving there unannounced, and camping out near the service bay until you get a hold of someone, may produce results.
YMMV.

Last couple time they gave me Uber credit, because they have no loaners car what so ever. It is still better than no car.
I just want to know if it is my right to ask them to provide me transportation for this issue.

Uber credits are cheaper than managing and servicing a fleet of loaner vehicles. Uber is, obviously, inferior to the loaners (or real rental car arrangements), but if a company can get away with Uber (or nothing at all), they are well within their rights to try to do so.

You have no real "rights" as a US consumer. This is America, not some socialist European country ;)
Your only "right" is to not buy goods from companies that provide inferior warranty services for their products.
Aka, Caveat Emptor / buyer beware.

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No, not really.
And since the auto OEM (Tesla) owns the service centers (SC) lock stock and barrel, there is no-one at the SC that really can "go to bat for you" and try to help out beyond what the OEM policies mandate that they do. In other words, all complaints and service issues (major or frivolous) go into the same work queue, and they will get to you when they'll get to you.
In my area, service appointments slots are 4 weeks out. Whether you want to change a wiper insert, or your car is undriveable.
First of all thank you for taking your time to reply me, that really suck that your near by SC has to take up to 4 weeks to have any service appointment slot O_O and I thought mine was bad. (usually around 1-2 weeks)

That's the other thing - getting any kind of an answer out of Tesla takes an act of God. Or tweet to Elon and hope that he responds.
Local SC's don't have direct phone lines, direct emails, or any other forms of direct communication. I did find that driving there unannounced, and camping out near the service bay until you get a hold of someone, may produce results.
YMMV.
I did hear about all kind of thing about Tesla SC before and now I am experiencing it myself. I still love the car but with all this SC experience I think I will think twice with the Cyber Truck. And camping them just making me laugh lol you did well Sir.
 
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So after getting a couple suggestion on lemon law, I decided to double check it again and found out there is free lemon law layers.
I just messaged them and it seems even tho my M3 is over 27 month and 23000 mils, I might still have a chance to file for the lemon law.

And especially the issue is related to the steering wheel-
"The Maryland Lemon Law covers vehicles that have a significant non-conformity which can not be fixed after a reasonable number of repair attempts (normally four), or a serious braking or steering problem which can't be fixed after the first try."

One thing that really upsets me is, this power steering lose power issue is critical and could cause not just my family but other family's life. But they just seems don't care.
I can still send it to be fix for the second time, if they still can't fix it I think lemon law will be sure my next step.
 
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Good luck. My car has been in a service center for about three weeks now without a real solution to the blown pyro fuse. They have workers calling in sick so they aren't able to further diagnose it. Also, uber does not drive in my area and they wouldn't give me a loaner so I have had to bum rides or rent a car out of pocket. Fingers crossed both of our vehicles are fixed soon!

Just realized we are both from Maryland and likely using the same service center...
 
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I would turn around and ask you to provide documentation that shows that tesla is "obligated" to provide you with transportation. I dont think there is anything written that they are obligated to provide anything. If you find something, perhaps post it for others.

If they dont specifically say "we will do X" then there is no obligation. Doesnt mean they will or wont, but you seem to be asking if you can drive down and "demand" transportation. You can ask, you cant demand, because there is no obligation, unless you can provide something that says there is an obligation somewhere.

To be clear, I am not saying they shouldnt, I am just saying they dont "have" to, so if your plan is to "demand" you might want to re think it, and "ask" instead.

You said ask, but also said " do I have the right to" and of course anyone can always ask for whatever they want to.
My wife had to take her M3 LR (picked up on 12/28 and had under 700 Miles, 666 :rolleyes::eek:to be exact) for some minor panel gaps and a coolant leak that the SC thought was due to air pockets. They estimated an hour to fix the issues. She opted to wait at the SC. At the end of the hour, they came and told her that the super manifold assembly was the cause of the leak and it would be 3-4 hours before they can complete it. Luckily, they had the part in stock. They offered to get her an Uber to the nearest Enterprise Rent-A-Car and told her to pick out a car of her choice at Enterprise. They apologized for not having a loaner for her.
At 4:00pm, I got the notification that the car was ready and so I told my wife to return the rental and just get a uber and not to bother Tesla for the return trip. The tech was super helpful and offered to move the bags from the Uber to her M3. He again apologized for not having a loaner.
Overall, she was very pleased with the way they handled the whole situation.
She never takes any of the vehicles for service or oil changes. Its been my job. However, with this experience, she offered to take the Tesla any time it required anything. Lol.
Note: I never visit the SC empty handed. I always take a couple dozen donuts and told my wife to do the same.
 
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So after getting a couple suggestion on lemon law, I decided to double check it again and found out there is free lemon law layers.
I just messaged them and it seems even tho my M3 is over 27 month and 23000 mils, I might still have a chance to file for the lemon law.

And especially the issue is related to the steering wheel-
"The Maryland Lemon Law covers vehicles that have a significant non-conformity which can not be fixed after a reasonable number of repair attempts (normally four), or a serious braking or steering problem which can't be fixed after the first try."

One thing that really upsets me is, this power steering lose power issue is critical and could cause not just my family but other family's life. But they just seems don't care.
I can still send it to be fix for the second time, if they still can't fix it I think lemon law will be sure my next step.

By "free" they mean when they settle they will take a giant chunk of your settlement money. They wouldn't invest significant time/resources to lemoning a car unless it's an absolute slam dunk. In which case, just lemon it yourself. If the car gets fixed up and you want to get rid of it, you're better off selling in this hot market vs trying to lemon. It seems likely that Tesla will fix your steering problem and hopefully you can avoid having more inexperienced techs touch your car.

My wife had to take her M3 LR (picked up on 12/28 and had under 700 Miles, 666 :rolleyes::eek:to be exact) for some minor panel gaps and a coolant leak that the SC thought was due to air pockets.

Elon is the devil confirmed. Or your wife. 😂
 
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