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Tesla comes to Canada!

Discussion in 'Tesla Motors' started by PaulM, Mar 3, 2009.

  1. PaulM

    PaulM Member

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    Received this e-mail today:

    Since I live in Quebec where the electricity is cheap and most of it comes from Hydro, owning a pure electric vehicle would be awesome. :smile: I recently completed building my house and pre-wired my garage with a 70A 240V circuit for a future electric car. I'm also subscribed to a dual energy heating program where when the temperature is above -12C, my rate is 4.33 cents/kWh. (I heat electric when temperatures are above -12C and below -12C my heating system automatically switches to propane). I know a lot of people think heating with electricity is stupid (including Martin E.) but it is quite common in Quebec. In many places, the only other option is oil or propane, both of which are more expensive then even the regular electricity rates. (First 30kWh per day 5.4c/kWh, remaining 7.33c/kWh, averaged over two months. The only other cost is a fixed charge of 40.64 c/day.)

    I've been dreaming of owning an electric car since I was 16. I even bought a Honda CRX in the hopes of converting it. I guess the only remaining obstacle in me getting a Tesla is $$$. Can't wait to see the Model S!!!
     
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    Cobos S60 owner since 2013

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    They mentioned Norway !! :)

    As a matter of fact most heating in Norway is done with electricity. Hmm I'm starting to see a pattern here... Though heat-exchangers are becoming popular.

    Speaking of selling Tesla in other countries, anyway heard anything about sales centers in Norway yet ?

    Cobos
     
  4. PaulM

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    Well it wouldn't be much different than buyers which aren't located in the few US cities that have a sales centre. New York is about 450 miles from here so driving it would be out of the question. I would guess that the first Canadian city with a dealer would be Toronto since it is the second most populous city in all of North-America. Although closer at 285 miles it still couldn't be done in one shot. (I have a friend in Bellville which is about half way) The next most populous city in Canada (and fourth in NA, ahead of Chicago) is Montreal which is only 130 miles away. I am no where near financially ready to buy a Model S let alone a Roadster so by the time I am ready who knows what will have happened. I just hope Tesla will still be around.
     
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    TheStar.com | Wheels | Tesla electric sports car coming to Canada
     
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    From what I have seen and read, I do believe this is accurate. That is (unlike previous EVs) the temperature control system for the batteries makes the Tesla perform fine in relatively extreme cold and warm climates.

    But what I am not sure I believe is that it "just works" with no cost. It has to cost a fair amount of energy to either warm or cool the batteries which could significantly reduce range.

    Of course perhaps it is all a wash -- it may spend more energy in the beginning keeping the batteries warm, but once the car is in heavy use it has to expend less energy keeping the batteries from overheating. It would be nice to hear something from Tesla directly addressing how the cold (or warm) effects overall range.
     
  7. WarpedOne

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    Not really. Batteries have a thing called internal resistance. When you are driving that thing heats up the battery. All there is to it is that with very very cold (frozen) battery you might not get all the power out of it. After some time, the battery will heat up and start working as normal. There is no need for special battery heating while driving.

    There is such a need when you want to charge it. If it is frozen, it will first heat up above freezing temperatures an then start charging. It's automatic.
     
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    Tesla Gets Ready for Push Into Canada

     
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    http://www.montrealgazette.com/technology/Feds+begin+testing+electric+vehicle/3707210/story.html
     
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    Good to see a quote from a Federal Minister (Strahl) in the article...it's about time the Canadian Feds start looking into a Federal rebate program (to supplement any Provincial rebates) as our neighbours to the South have done.
     
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    True, in the US we get the federal tax rebate. Other rebates depend on the state in which your car is registered. In Illinois the EV incentive is " No pollution test required". Thank you.
     
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    According to this, in Illinois there is a tax rebate of 80% of the vehicle purchase cost, or $4000, whichever is less:

    http://www.thecarelectric.com/content/electric-car-benefits-by-state.php

    I also thought I read somewhere that there was an additional tax rebate for installing electric vehicle charging equipment at your home, up to $1500 per unit?

    My assumption has been that these are in addition to the federal rebates.
     
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    Is this just an error in the article, or is this an option (requirement?) available in Canada?
     
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    It is complete nonsense. Always discount 10% - 30% of anything you read in the news.
     
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    I have a manual system for this Andrew...I just put the window down and yell "get the he!! outta the way, eh?"...:biggrin::wink:

    It's portable, so I can take it with me in any car I drive...:biggrin::biggrin:

    It is a Canadian system though (eh?), so it might have to be adapted for use elsewhere. :wink:

     
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    In Canada all you need is a speaker to throw your voice to the side and front of the car...... "BEER"

    LOL :)
     
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    Nah, they would just freeze on the spot. Beer in the headlights...
     
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    MODS> this may be going off topic, feel free to move.
    Matt, you're right the $4000 tax credit is for vehicles purchased after Dec. 2009. The $1500 tax credit for charging expired Dec, 31, 2010. I have contacted springfield for more info on this and will post when I get a reply.

    My #635 was delivered August 2009 to early for the $4000.
     

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