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Krugerrand
Meow
Yes, you can see from pictures that there's batteries all over the place.
I didn't understand the one reporter on video saying the firefighters had to FIRST put out the debris field fires before turning their attention to the car. That doesn't make any sense at all. And then there was a firefighter interviewed who was saying how difficult/complicated/hard it is dealing with EVs and how they have to be extra careful. *full on eye roll* Just add water folks.
and speculating the driver was drunk is not offensive?! That's poor taste given there's no facts. All we know is the car was likely speeding.
I recall being told in an advanced driving school that tree-lined-roads while pretty are incredibly dangerous. if the tree is more than 5 inches diameter it might as well be a concrete post - whatever the speed of the car. It won't snap - and will likely cause death in a side impact. Less than 5 inches and the tree will be taken out by the car.
Waiting4M3
Active Member
I hope AP2 (or subsequent versions) would have more power to stop these from happening even without users turning on AP
NukePower
Member
I'm not familiar with the exact details on how the current safety systems work in the car but could someone explain why the car cannot stop by itself or at least drastically reduce the speed prior to hitting a tree? Unless the driver had his/her foot on the accelerator, why isn't there an automatic braking system that can preclude such terrible accident? Does the Autopilot need to be engaged for the automatic braking system to work? Thank you
Waiting4M3
Active Member
Tesla is justa huge magnet for news headlines, positive and negative. If the media can hang onto every Elon tweets and write paragraph after paragraph over his 140 characters, and speculate incessantly after every new products that's been announced or even hinted, that may or may not come to a store near you in 1-2 years, then we can't blame them for reporting every little negative things about Tesla. It's probably the result of how fast Tesla is pushing the technology frontier, vs the boring old car and energy industries.
Waiting4M3
Active Member
Not that fire fighting is ever easy, but have you ever seen anyone getting interviewed on their job, and say stuff like "oh my job is so easy a 5 year old can do it"? Of course everyone always emphasize how hard their job is and how good of a job they just did
The tree is a few feet off the road, if you're travelling 2-3 times the posted speed limit, there's no AEB on earth which could prevent that.
UPDATE: Coroner identifies two people killed in fiery Tesla crash north of downtown
Local news station coverage, with cell-phone-video of the post-crash fire, as well as later pics of the vehicle and car-parts/battery cells strewn about. Thoughts go out to the occupants and their families.
I hope the IFD (Indianapolis Fire Department) will review their response to this crash, as based on the video and comments in the newspaper article, it took them quite some time to start fighting the fire -- likely due to hesitation in how to do so safely. I can respect their desire to stay safe and not endanger themselves or the occupants, but with a post-crash fire like that and occupant(s) to be extricated, time is everything.
Local news station coverage, with cell-phone-video of the post-crash fire, as well as later pics of the vehicle and car-parts/battery cells strewn about. Thoughts go out to the occupants and their families.
I hope the IFD (Indianapolis Fire Department) will review their response to this crash, as based on the video and comments in the newspaper article, it took them quite some time to start fighting the fire -- likely due to hesitation in how to do so safely. I can respect their desire to stay safe and not endanger themselves or the occupants, but with a post-crash fire like that and occupant(s) to be extricated, time is everything.
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NukePower
Member
Thanks. Yes that would make sense if the accident was due to a sudden change in trajectory by the driver but if the car was coming from a straight line somehow (50 or so yards), I'd hope that an automatic braking system would kick-in.
Michael on Twitter -- includes video of what looks like part of an ejected battery module burning, with cells bursting and flying away.
You know, I looked up the two names on facebook and linkedin there's a company in common. If they are the correct people then one is the CEO and the other is a 27 yr old who just started three months ago... in a car together at 1 am....
RogerHScott
Active Member
On the contrary, isn't it more offensive to suggest that someone fully in command of their faculties would speed to that extent knowingly and intentionally? Unless we're ready to veer off into "unintended acceleration" territory here...
RogerHScott
Active Member
Why do you assume they did not? They got up to that speed somehow!
Ughhh...
I hope that doesn't push EV development backwards.
Everybody knows that vehicles can burn in a crash, and gasoline cars with nearly empty fuel tanks can actually explode like a bomb.
That shot of the cells going off like fireworks while accurate, is the worse case scenario like car explosions:
CNG which is a "safe" motor fuel:
I hope that doesn't push EV development backwards.
Everybody knows that vehicles can burn in a crash, and gasoline cars with nearly empty fuel tanks can actually explode like a bomb.
That shot of the cells going off like fireworks while accurate, is the worse case scenario like car explosions:
CNG which is a "safe" motor fuel:
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