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Tesla Dashcam Failed When Needed Most - During an Accident

Discussion in 'Model X' started by apilot, Oct 18, 2019.

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  1. apilot

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    I have a 2018 Tesla Model X, HW3 with the latest firmware at the time of this writing (2019.31.12.2) and a high-speed USB drive to capture dashcam footage - worked fine until now. I was unfortunately rear-ended by another driver - luckily fairly minor damage. About a minute after the accident I pressed the Dashcam icon to save the most recent footage thinking I was covered.

    Only to find out when I got home that the actual accident footage wasn't there. It saved everything before, and everything afterward, but not the actual accident! Likely there's a software bug that corrupted the file during save in some way.

    Super disappointed that when I needed it most, it failed. If you really want a reliable dashcam, better get a third party one.
     
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    Similar experience. Sentry working great. Ran off the road by Toyota SUV who attempted to squeeze his vehicle into the space for a VW in front of me while cruising in the fast lane at 83 in a string of cars. Ran me into the ruff. I think my BYE2GAS license plate pisses them off.

    At later check with the super phone check program and all clips were there but the one from the incident. Darn. Saved me from the opportunity to take it to the police and have them tell me, "Tuff luck,buddy, what do you want us to do about it?"
     
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    Could that pressing be to stop and not to save?

    Anyway, it's just another example of a beta Tesla system. It's unpredictable. For predictability, please just use a real dash cam with predictable production quality.
     
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    No, I've actually saved many times before. In this case, for whatever reason in this particular case, it didn't save (or corrupted) the save. You'd think Tesla would have fixed the edge cases on saving clips by now.
     
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    Someone rear-ended me too. The only thing that DashCam did NOT save from that whole day was the minute in which I was rear-ended.

    Figures.
     
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    Wow, I wonder if there is some bug where, during an accident, the system doesn't write the cached video to the drive?
     
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    IIRC, @wk057 and others have pulled accident footage from salvaged cars. Seems a coincidence that each of you had a scenario with impact for which Dashcam didn’t write to your card for the block of time the incident actually occurred, but successfully recorded for “non-emergency” blocks of time. Could it be that the car actually wrote the footage to internal storage instead of your flash storage, due to systems registering an emergency scenario (eg AEB or ABS triggers, etc)?
     
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    Just remember that even if you don't hit save, there is an hour's worth of recording on the drive itself. When you hit save, it simply moves those files and closes the current file in progress.

    As long as you haven't been running the X for more than an hour, check the drive you're using. Also, in some cases, you can use data recovery software to recover some of the past recordings as long as those blocks haven't been overwritten.

    But, of course, there's a chance it really didn't write anything to the drive at all.
     
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    Yes, checked that too, unfortunately, nothing there. I'm baffled as to why it didn't save the footage unless it saved it somehow to internal storage for an emergency scenario? (not sure if that exists). It normally works fine.
     
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    no, those operations are parallel. As in the buffer that the car stores for Tesla use is diffrent than the dashcam use, they are encoded all the time in parallel on two different nodes and know nothing about each other.
     
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    This happened to me earlier this year too. Dash cam saved everything before and after except for the 1 minute where the accident happened.

    The other drivers admitted guilt 100% so I didn’t end up needing the footag, but she wouldn’t take the insurance call for over a month to admit to the accident though.
     
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    There must be something going on here that's we're missing. Why would so many of us be having this issue?
     
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    Wonder if they're being "lost" because of a firmware bug, or on purpose..

    Bug (not real, just saying how it could go wrong) - on impact detection, automatically save. User hits save, oops, overwritten by nothing. Forgot to implement checks in code.

    Purpose - on impact detection, send video to Tesla servers for analysis and delete from drive, in case the fault was the vehicle's, so they can't use it against us (Tesla).

    But, in the end, it's more than likely a coding bug... The question is - can you save videos repeatedly without the issue, or, is it really detecting an impact, and the functionality is different at that point.
     

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