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Tesla DC charging network

Discussion in 'Supercharging & Charging Infrastructure' started by dsm363, Oct 8, 2011.

  1. dmckinstry

    dmckinstry Model S - U.S. P - #1649

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    The next city of even moderate size is Missoula, MT, about 200 miles from Spokane. Montana is so spread out you're not going to get any stops near the 150 mile distance. Of course, if you want to build your own string of restaurants.....
     
  2. Larry Chanin

    Larry Chanin President, Florida Tesla Enthusiasts

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    Yes, this is a very useful map, but it is not ideal.

    For example, folks wanting to make the trip from Fort Myers, Florida to Miami, Florida will not first drive 2.5 hours out of their way North to Tampa, then take Rt. 4 East to Daytona Beach, then drive down to Miami. They will take I-75 South and then across Alligator Alley East to Fort Lauderdale then South to Miami. This of course doesn't pertain just to folks in Fort Myers. Folks generally don't drive North to go South, :wink: so most people South of Tampa are going to drive South and cross the state at another West to East arterial other than Rt 4.

    In other words I'm suggesting that they need a Supercharger on Alligator Alley (I-75) even though its not shown on the simplified Interstate map.

    Larry
     
  3. dsm363

    dsm363 Roadster + Sig Model S

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    I think Telsa needs to deploy their network quickly. They decided to go it alone with their standard and need to step up. In Texas, we could start with 4 or 5 chargers to cover travel between the 4 major cities. I hope they don't delay other installations for a few years.
     
  4. Lloyd

    Lloyd Well-Known Member

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    I don't believe anyone posted this yet. Telsa used to state that Supercharging could attain 80% charge in 45 minutes. That has changed slightly to 50% in 30 minutes.


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    Model S comes standard with everything you need to plug into the most common 240-volt outlet, standard 120-volt wall outlets and public stations. With a High Power Wall Connector and Twin Chargers, Model S can be recharged at the rate of 62 miles range per hour. A fifty-percent charge in thirty minutes can be achieved with a Tesla Supercharger
     
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    The 62 MPHC is not constant. I saw that at one point in a charge cycle the rate can get as fast a 230 MPHC.
     
  6. dsm363

    dsm363 Roadster + Sig Model S

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    We'll have to see what the announcement is in June. I really hope there are two chargers per location and an additional 80A HPC. We'll see.
     
  7. Rifleman

    Rifleman Now owns 2 Model S's!!!

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    Thats what I am hoping for as well (although 2 80A HPC's would be better, particularly for us 40 kWh'ers. That way if one is taken or out of service, we are not stranded.)
     
  8. ElSupreme

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    I think this is likely. You use the Supercharger to get to 75% full, then top off with the 80A HPC if needed. Not to mention throwing a little love to the 40kWh people, as Rifleman pointed out.
     
  9. stopcrazypp

    stopcrazypp Well-Known Member

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    So charging speed has dropped a little (80% in 45min is 1.33C, 50% in 30 minutes is 1C) and the target charge has also dropped (from 80% to 50%). It's probably so there would be less stress on the pack (esp. for the 60kWh one).
     
  10. TEG

    TEG TMC Moderator

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    That seems to be a trend with CHAdeMO installs too... To install a L2 J1772 next to one...
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  11. Yggdrasill

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    If they build supercharger locations here in Europe (as they should (or minimally include CHAdeMO), or I will rethink my reservation), I want each location to have two 90 kW DC superchargers, and at least two 30 kW AC three phase charging points. Superchargers will be out of commission from time to time, as there are electronics involved, but 30 kW AC is just a dumb connection to the nearest tranformer, so it should be very reliable. This means that pretty much the worst case if you pull up to a charging location and one supercharger isn't working, and the other supercharger is occupied with two additional cars waiting to be charged, you'll be at the location for 2 hours instead of 45 minutes. That, I can survive.

    Having to charge on a 230V 40A point for 7 hours would be unacceptable, though.
     
  12. Odenator

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    Haven't seen any mention this before, but am I the only one who thinks we need a DC supercharger between Las Vegas and Reno?
     
  13. Lloyd

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    Yes, Tonopah would likely be the proper place!

     
  14. daxz

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    Put a pin on map at: Tesla Supercharger Desired Locations where you'd like a charger. There are a couple of pins on Highway 395 that are midway between Reno/Vegas.
    Thread explaining map: Suggested Supercharger Locations
     
  15. Lloyd

    Lloyd Well-Known Member

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    395 is not the normal route between Las Vegas and Reno, especially in the winter! Pin placed in Tonopah.
     
  16. dsm363

    dsm363 Roadster + Sig Model S

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    They said they would announce it in June. My guess is June 22nd with the first delivery of the Model S.
     

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