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Tesla Direct Sales Map (US)

Discussion in 'Tesla, Inc.' started by TMC Staff, Jan 11, 2018.

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  1. OlderThanDirt

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    The dust hasn’t settled on this legislation yet. Undoubtedly there will be some line item vetos if not a veto of the entire bill.

    Wisconsinites need to reach out to the governor and urge him to keep the Tesla provision in the bill.

    There are some owners who believe it should be vetoed entirely. Some don’t like how the Tesla provision got in the bill. While the bill is less than ideal they do not realize how incredibly difficult it will be pass this as standalone legislation. Believe me we’ve been trying....

    This is politics ........ It’s a dirty business anyway you slice it.
     
  2. RobStark

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    Wisconsin Gov can veto individual spending items.

    The Tesla provision is not a spending item.

    He can veto that too independently of the entire bill?
     
  3. OlderThanDirt

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    The Wisconsin Tesla direct sales provision has been vetoed by the governor.....

    From the Veto Message:

    73. Direct Sale of Motor Vehicles from Manufacturer
    Sections 1826g, 1826m and 1826s

    This provision allows for the sale of motor vehicles directly by a dealership owned by a
    manufacturer if that manufacturer only makes electric powered cars.

    I am vetoing this provision as I object to significant changes to existing motor vehicle
    dealership law and the consumer protections they provide to Wisconsin occurring late in the
    state budget process and without the opportunity for adequate public input and debate.
     
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  4. EinSV

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    This map is great -- thanks for keeping it updated. I have one suggestion that might make it a little more user friendly and easier to take in at a glance. Since it is a map showing Tesla's direct sales, the colors on the map should match Tesla's sales/service status, not the status of the direct sales law that Tesla may be exempt from. If you wanted, you could then use the Tesla logo and leaf to indicate states where Tesla has an exemption of some sort. So Washington would be blue with a Tesla logo, Utah would be blue with a leaf, and Ohio would be yellow with a logo. You could either color code the logo, or to make the map less busy just make them white or another standard color.

    Another option would be to color code the map per Tesla's status and just drop the logo/leaf altogether, or use astericks to identify states where Tesla has an exemption and keep track of the exemptions in the text in the first post.

    This would avoid a lot of confusion by people who look at the map but aren't familiar with all the details. For example, I've seen many people, myself included, confused by "red" Washington when Tesla has stores there. Also, the map often gets used outside TMC where it causes even more confusion because people looking at it don't review this thread, and don't even think to look at what the Tesla logo means (and may not even notice it). I think it also undermines the usefulness of the map because people see a red or orange that they know sells Teslas and then dismiss the map's accuracy because they don't notice or understand the color scheme.

    Just a suggestion -- thanks for providing such a great resource!
     
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  5. scottf200

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    From another thread:
     
  6. Pluto

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    See below from earlier in this thread in reference to the state Washington:
     
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  7. anonim1979

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    Michigan:
    Michigan settles lawsuit and allows Tesla to sell, fix vehicles

     
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    #89 Pluto, Jan 22, 2020
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    I appreciate it, I might just do that in the future (or at least provide one or more samples before doing so).
    I am too. Here's some documentation on it, it looks like it's an existing process since at least Feb 2019, but I need to look into it more (unless if someone else does): https://www.michigan.gov/documents/485_72279_7.pdf

    Anyways I also need to do a bit more research on whether this applies to other (potential) automakers before editing the map, but it looks like this would make Michigan a blue state.
     
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  10. ItsNotAboutTheMoney

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    It just means that the transaction has to be fully completed outside of Michigan, so that the buyer/lessee has legal right to the vehicle.
    They don't mean that it needs a title (document).
     
  11. anonim1979

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    #91 anonim1979, Jan 22, 2020
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    https://www.michigan.gov/documents/ag/Joint_Stipulation_and_Motion_for_Entry_of_Dismissal_1-22-20_679161_7.pdf

    Reddit: Tesla v. Michigan — Settlement Proposal filed
     
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  12. JLF18

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    can anyone edit the 1st post? I don't see how to update the map.
     
  13. dhanson865

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    If you've been here long enough you can edit that post but I don't have the source graphic to edit the map. We'll have to wait for the original author to update the graphic portion.

    I assume want Michigan changed?
     
  14. anonim1979

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    Colorado is tightening their laws. Nothing changes for Tesla.

    https://www.bizjournals.com/denver/news/2020/03/03/colorado-electric-vehicle-sales-bill.html

     
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    This is LITERALLY the best source of legal information regarding Tesla disputes against Dealerships I've seen on the web. Very nicely done. Please keep updated lol
     
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