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Tesla Gigafactory
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Basic Structural Visualization
This is a model I threw together after watching that video last night. This should help if anyone wants to visualize the location of the mezzanine floor. I doubt the new floor will reach the outer walls, but that is one of many assumptions made for the sake of quick modeling.
This is a model I threw together after watching that video last night. This should help if anyone wants to visualize the location of the mezzanine floor. I doubt the new floor will reach the outer walls, but that is one of many assumptions made for the sake of quick modeling.
brandude87
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After watching the video a few times over, here's my interpretation of the Gigafactory construction plan:
The Gigafactory will be built in 7 "blocks" to form a superstructure that will have 3 floors (1st floor at ground level, a 2nd to-be-added floor at 23.5 ft, and a 3rd floor at 41 ft), will have a 5.8 M sq ft footprint on the ground (source: this article), and will have a total 17.4 M sq ft of floor space and 24 M sq ft of concrete (including the roof which will be at 71 ft). The current block ("block 1" or "block A") will have a 833,333 sq ft footprint and 2.5 M sq ft total on 3 floors. The Gigafactory will be the largest building in the world by footprint at 5.8 M sq ft, beating out the Aalsmeer Flower Auction at 5.6 M sq ft. However, the largest building in the world by volume will still be the Boeing Everett Building at 472 M cu ft vs the Gigafactory in second place at 412 M cu ft. Another note: the concrete floors will be 5.5 inches thick, so that would be 10.6 M cu ft of concrete or 1.6 B lbs (800,000 tons) of concrete!
Additional thoughts:
1. When I first heard the 24 M sq ft number, I thought that meant they were expanding the factory to an 8 M sq ft footprint (24 M sq ft / 3 levels), however, he only mentions 3 floors (the original 2 plus one to be added between the first and second floors) and when he said that there will be "24 M sq ft of structure," I think that by "structure" he was referring to the 4 levels of concrete (including the roof). So there are 24 M sq ft of concrete (including roof), but 17.4 M sq ft of floor space. Plus, this article confirms that the footprint will be 5.8 M sq ft, not 8 M sq ft.
2. Initially, the GF was planned to be 10 M sq ft on two levels with a 5 M sq ft footprint. The new plan calls for a 17.4 M sq ft building on 3 floors with a 5.8 M sf footprint. This represents a 74% increase in floor space. In the Q1 earnings call, Elon suggested that they were looking into ways of increasing production by 50 - 100%. This expansion would certainly provide the room necessary for such production increases.
The Gigafactory will be built in 7 "blocks" to form a superstructure that will have 3 floors (1st floor at ground level, a 2nd to-be-added floor at 23.5 ft, and a 3rd floor at 41 ft), will have a 5.8 M sq ft footprint on the ground (source: this article), and will have a total 17.4 M sq ft of floor space and 24 M sq ft of concrete (including the roof which will be at 71 ft). The current block ("block 1" or "block A") will have a 833,333 sq ft footprint and 2.5 M sq ft total on 3 floors. The Gigafactory will be the largest building in the world by footprint at 5.8 M sq ft, beating out the Aalsmeer Flower Auction at 5.6 M sq ft. However, the largest building in the world by volume will still be the Boeing Everett Building at 472 M cu ft vs the Gigafactory in second place at 412 M cu ft. Another note: the concrete floors will be 5.5 inches thick, so that would be 10.6 M cu ft of concrete or 1.6 B lbs (800,000 tons) of concrete!
Additional thoughts:
1. When I first heard the 24 M sq ft number, I thought that meant they were expanding the factory to an 8 M sq ft footprint (24 M sq ft / 3 levels), however, he only mentions 3 floors (the original 2 plus one to be added between the first and second floors) and when he said that there will be "24 M sq ft of structure," I think that by "structure" he was referring to the 4 levels of concrete (including the roof). So there are 24 M sq ft of concrete (including roof), but 17.4 M sq ft of floor space. Plus, this article confirms that the footprint will be 5.8 M sq ft, not 8 M sq ft.
2. Initially, the GF was planned to be 10 M sq ft on two levels with a 5 M sq ft footprint. The new plan calls for a 17.4 M sq ft building on 3 floors with a 5.8 M sf footprint. This represents a 74% increase in floor space. In the Q1 earnings call, Elon suggested that they were looking into ways of increasing production by 50 - 100%. This expansion would certainly provide the room necessary for such production increases.
tdelta1000
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The video offered great information about The Gigafactory. I think the two high voltage line are for temp use until the plant fully comes on line.
Bangor Bob
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Western desert, and having a historic drought... Where are they planning on getting water for 300,000 workers and their families?
dbfish
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roblab
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The Sierras drain east as well as west. Only it goes underground, and everyone uses wells. Much of the water is alkaline, wells are shallow (25 feet) but alkaline water grows plants and flushes toilets. Most casinos recycle water in lakes on their property, in Reno, and they have hundreds of thousands of visitors all the time. The Truckee river flows right through the area, but there is a lot of river underground. And most houses don't have a lot of lush greenery around them.
Nevada is used to having drought conditions, and most Americans waste tons of water. They'll learn.
My brother lives in Fallon, 30 miles east of Fernley, 60 miles east of Reno. 6 crops of alfalfa a year, irrigation, the HUGE Carson Sink just north where millions of migratory water birds fly through. His property is irrigated every week several inches deep. For no reason. Just a horse and a couple llamas.
Somehow, it will happen. It's not all barren.
If we're gonna worry about how they're gonna do it, let's include in those worries about where we are going to put a few more billion people, since everyone has the right to have as many kids as they want. Where will we get water for them? and food, and cars, and education, and, and, and.... See? It all seems to work out.
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Link requires some silliness or you can't read it. Can you give a synopsis?
mspohr
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dbfish
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The Tahoe Reno Industrial Center east of Sparks is already home to such heavy hitters as Walmart, Toys R Us, FedEx Supply Chain Services, Petsmart and Kal Kan/Mars pet food.
It has just landed Tesla Motors' massive battery factory..
Lance Gilman, marketing director for the industrial park, said water won't be a problem for Tesla or anybody else there.
"We're really not impacted by the drought situation," he said. "Our water source appears to be incredibly stable and we haven't seen a change in it at all (during the drought). We can pump 2 to 3 million gallons a day or more under today's capacity and that's, of course, expandable dramatically."
The industrial center has three different water sources. The smallest involves water rights for the Truckee River — it has an extraction well to get water from the river.
The biggest source involves an aquifer that's a thousand feet underground, has about 30,000 acre-feet of water (9.8 billion gallons) and serves only Tahoe Reno Industrial Center. This water is pumped throughout the park to numerous tanks, which then pipe the water to individual businesses.
"It's been tested by Tesco Gatorade for bottling and it's a very pure bottling water right out of the ground," Gilman said.
Mother Nature uses rain and snowmelt to recharge the aquifer.
A third source involves reclaimed water. The industrial park is a closed-loop system, meaning that when companies use water and it goes down the drain, this water is pumped to the center's own treatment plant, which cleans up the water and stores it in an above-ground reservoir.
This lake — about 100 surface acres and 60 to 70 feet deep at its deepest point — holds all of the park's treated water.
This recaptured water can be used in manufacturing for concrete or cool-down processes.
Gilman said water is a frequent discussion with businesses looking to locate here.
"The good news for our economic development community is, we can deliver large quantities of water, and I don't believe that that's really been available in our market in the past," he said.
It has just landed Tesla Motors' massive battery factory..
Lance Gilman, marketing director for the industrial park, said water won't be a problem for Tesla or anybody else there.
"We're really not impacted by the drought situation," he said. "Our water source appears to be incredibly stable and we haven't seen a change in it at all (during the drought). We can pump 2 to 3 million gallons a day or more under today's capacity and that's, of course, expandable dramatically."
The industrial center has three different water sources. The smallest involves water rights for the Truckee River — it has an extraction well to get water from the river.
The biggest source involves an aquifer that's a thousand feet underground, has about 30,000 acre-feet of water (9.8 billion gallons) and serves only Tahoe Reno Industrial Center. This water is pumped throughout the park to numerous tanks, which then pipe the water to individual businesses.
"It's been tested by Tesco Gatorade for bottling and it's a very pure bottling water right out of the ground," Gilman said.
Mother Nature uses rain and snowmelt to recharge the aquifer.
A third source involves reclaimed water. The industrial park is a closed-loop system, meaning that when companies use water and it goes down the drain, this water is pumped to the center's own treatment plant, which cleans up the water and stores it in an above-ground reservoir.
This lake — about 100 surface acres and 60 to 70 feet deep at its deepest point — holds all of the park's treated water.
This recaptured water can be used in manufacturing for concrete or cool-down processes.
Gilman said water is a frequent discussion with businesses looking to locate here.
"The good news for our economic development community is, we can deliver large quantities of water, and I don't believe that that's really been available in our market in the past," he said.
dhanson865
Well-Known Member
see the 3 videos in post #514. Those numbers aren't for Tesla they are for the entire industrial park if it were fully developed with all the businesses running 4 shifts.
brandude87
Member
Awesome! You can see the frame for the new mezzanine floor going in, which appears to be about 75% complete (when viewed from the outside at least). Concrete on the roof and third levels appear to be complete as well!
brandude87
Member
Here ya go. Captions are from Bob.
Wide shot of the construction site. View is looking west toward Reno-Sparks. Interstate 80 (I-80) is to the right following the green tree line which marks the Truckee River which flows east from Lake Tahoe, through Reno-Sparks to the land-locked Pyramid Lake on the Pyramid Paiute Reservation just south of the town of Gerlach and the Black Rock Desert. The buildings seen in the background are some of the older developments in the Tahoe-Reno Industrial Center. The biggest building to the upper left of the Gigafactory is the Petco Distribution Center and behind that is Walmart. The building you can see that's furthest away, and on the opposite side of the Truckee River (and I-80), is the Apple Data Center.
Panorama of the building. View is looking west toward Reno-Sparks.
Wide angle shot with the Gigafactory in the foreground. View is looking west toward Reno-Sparks.
Panorama of the construction site. View is looking west toward Reno-Sparks.
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