I can't wait for the stories about how Tesla sold some family a car with no way to charge it.
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Tesla has officially removed the mobile connector as a standard accessory with every new car purchase; now a $400 separate purchase
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These cars have months long wait times. Is it wrong that I don’t feel bad for people that don’t take the time to research how to charge an EV they’re spending $50k+ on? Charge at a supercharger, buy a Tesla mobile charger if it’s in stock, buy a wall connector, or buy a J1772 mobile charger with an adapter. It’s not that hard.
E90alex
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But Tesla has still not directly communicated anything officially either way to people with outstanding orders. Someone who doesn’t follow forums or twitter or YouTubers would have no idea and fully expect their cars to come with the mobile connector. Then they would be blindsided and not prepared when they pick up their car without one and Tesla doesn’t have any stock to sell them one.
Teslas are reaching “normal” people now and it’s not just EV/tech nerds buying them.
There are plenty of 1st time EV buyers who are getting by with level 1 charging while trying to figure out long-term solutions.
FlatSix911
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Additional stats from Teslascope.
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Elon Musk claims Tesla owners have 'super low usage' of included mobile charger, but stats show otherwise
Tesla recently announced that it won’t be including its mobile charging connector with every new car, which it had been...
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For what it is worth, in January 2021 I gathered home-charging equipment preferences, with a fair sample size, in this survey:
If this data is to be believed, the Mobile Connector is a (perhaps not surprisingly) popular (in fact, the single most popular) choice for home charging.
If this data is to be believed, the Mobile Connector is a (perhaps not surprisingly) popular (in fact, the single most popular) choice for home charging.
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As a counterpoint, I wrote Which NEMA Adapters to carry?. I began driving BEVs (all non-Tesla) since end of July 2013. I've been BEV only and w/no ICEV in my household of 1 since end of Jan 2019.
Have never ever used any NEMA outlets other than 5-15. Last time I did that was probably in Dec 2021 before I took my 80% capped former Bolt (by 80% temp limiter patch) on a road trip to LA (over 350 miles one way) to top it off to 80%. I almost never charge at home due to Pacific Gouge & Extort besides not owning the house I live in. I can charge for free or cheaper elsewhere.
I wouldn't want to leave my EVSE out in public parking (e.g. airport scenario). It might get stolen, even by copper thieves who might want the cable. Not worth it.
Like I said. I don’t feel bad for people that don’t do their own research of how they’re going to charge their car.
These cars have months long waits. Most people should have it figured out by the time they get their car.
E90alex
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They could have researched when they ordered the car and settled on using the mobile connector with a 14-50 adapter as many do, had an electrician come install an outlet in preparation, and are just now waiting on the car to arrive and the mobile connector it’s supposed to come with. And now they would be caught off guard when their car arrives without one, without any prior warning.
Tesla orders after April 17 will not include Mobile Charging Connector
Following Tesla’s removal of the standard inclusion of the mobile charging connector, company representatives confirmed today any vehicle ordered after April 17 would not include the device. Over the weekend, Tesla CEO Elon Musk confirmed the automaker would no longer include a mobile charging...
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If they order the car after April 17 and they expect a mobile connector, their research was done poorly.
And without any way to buy one because it's out of stock indefinitely.
I mean, I've tried the 10-30 and 14-30 adapters on dryer outlets to test that they work, I've tried the 6-50 and 14-50 adapters in my own garage (on the Chargepoint Home (non Flex model) outlet, a 14-50 with a 6-50 adapter on it, which I normally use to charge my PHEV), and I have used the 5-20 adapter at the airport. I have plugged into a 6-20 outlet at my friend's house before. Did I really need to? Not really, I could have charged elsewhere, and I wasn't critically low on battery power. However, at some point, I'll probably find an outlet in a public parking lot on a road trip or a dryer outlet in the garage of a rental house where I can charge instead of going to a public charger. I'm of the mentality that it's better to have something and not need it, than to need something and not have it.
Did they do the recall repair on most of the Bolts out there yet?
What rates is Pacific Gouge & Extort charging you? I mean, yeah, Pacific Gouge & Extort's rates kind of suck, and in theory, I could go a few miles away where there are some free EVSEs maybe once a week, but it's just not worth my time. On top of that, I'd have to charge to more than 60%, and my average depth of discharge would be much greater than 10-15%, which would be detrimental to battery life.
If someone did try to steal my EVSE, I'd have some nice close-up video of that person on my Sentry Mode logs. That's the nice thing about staying plugged in; you can run Sentry Mode for days without it draining your battery.
E90alex
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Honestly I don’t even trust that April 17th date because it was never officially publicly announced. Just a screen shot of an internal memo which Tesla could easily deny was true or walk back on. And replies from SAs which have notoriously given unreliable or wrong information. Their website still doesn’t mention mobile connector not included anywhere when you try to order a car.Tesla orders after April 17 will not include Mobile Charging Connector
Following Tesla’s removal of the standard inclusion of the mobile charging connector, company representatives confirmed today any vehicle ordered after April 17 would not include the device. Over the weekend, Tesla CEO Elon Musk confirmed the automaker would no longer include a mobile charging...
If they order the car after April 17 and they expect a mobile connector, their research was done poorly.
I won’t believe it until we see people over the next few months all getting their cars with the connector bundle.
How so? You were saying above that it's no problem that Tesla isn't including a cable because people can just charge on level 1 while they figure out what to do in the meantime without a cable. But how are they to do that while figuring out what equipment to get?
swaltner
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There's a month's long wait until there isn't. A friend recently ordered a Model 3 on March 26. He took delivery only 5 days later on March 31, 2022, after having been originally told the vehicle would arrive in Jun-Aug 2022. He scrambled for a charging solution upon initial delivery. The mobile connector got heavy usage on a standard NEMA 5-15 outlet during the first 2 weeks of ownership before he was able to get the Wall Connector installed.
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