Tesla hits emergency vehicle... Again

[Barklikeadog]

Tesla in Autopilot mode crashes into parked police car

Authorities in Washington state are investigating a crash involving a Tesla vehicle in Autopilot mode that collided with a stopped police car over the weekend.

abcnews.go.com

Same old story it seems. Vehicle on shoulder, autopilot doesn't recognize... Luckily nobody died.


"While Troopers investigated the collision, the driver of the Tesla claimed that he had the vehicle in 'Auto-Pilot mode' and assumed the vehicle would slow and move over on its own," the state patrol added.

 

[Ciaopec]

Driver: "Wow! Perfect opportunity to test FSD. Patrol car blocking part of the lane . Let's see what happens" Idiot. JMHO

 

[qdeathstar]

Tesla in Autopilot mode crashes into parked police car

Authorities in Washington state are investigating a crash involving a Tesla vehicle in Autopilot mode that collided with a stopped police car over the weekend.

abcnews.go.com

Same old story it seems. Vehicle on shoulder, autopilot doesn't recognize... Luckily nobody died.

wolf wolf.... pay attention. Any car is on autopilot when you are staring at your phone bro.

 

[mongo]

Tesla in Autopilot mode crashes into parked police car

Authorities in Washington state are investigating a crash involving a Tesla vehicle in Autopilot mode that collided with a stopped police car over the weekend.

abcnews.go.com

Same old story it seems. Vehicle on shoulder, autopilot doesn't recognize... Luckily nobody died.


"While Troopers investigated the collision, the driver of the Tesla claimed that he had the vehicle in 'Auto-Pilot mode' and assumed the vehicle would slow and move over on its own," the state patrol added.

Driver: "Wow! Perfect opportunity to test FSD. Patrol car blocking part of the lane . Let's see what happens" Idiot. JMHO

It was a 2015 Model S. So Mobileye/ AP1 which doesn't do automatic lane changes, only driver initiated.
Tesla Autopilot AP1 vs AP2 vs AP3 - Differences Explained - AutoPilot Review

 

[Ciaopec]

It was a 2015 Model S. So Mobileye/ AP1 which doesn't do automatic lane changes, only driver initiated.
Tesla Autopilot AP1 vs AP2 vs AP3 - Differences Explained - AutoPilot Review

Still an idiot for not paying attention. Thanks for the review of differences; I have AP1 and AP3. I just assumed it was a M3. And you know what that does.

 

[S4WRXTTCS]

It was a WA State driver so its mandatory to use your phone while your driving.

He just blames AP because he needed something to blame for his failure.

 

[HookBill]

Either he is looking for an excuse for his inattentive behavior or he is a new owner of a used vehicle and doesn’t understand the capabilities of a AP1 car.

 

[powertoold]

Why's the cop need to park with a slice of his car in the lane? It seems unnecessary in this situation.

Autopilot is bad at stopping for stationary cars that are partially in the lane. I had a "near-miss" experience with this about a month ago.

 

[qdeathstar]

Why's the cop need to park with a slice of his car in the lane? It seems unnecessary in this situation.

better to hit the cop car than the cop.

 

[powertoold]

better to hit the cop car than the cop.

I don't understand the logic of this, considering if a car hits the patrol car, it'll go flying into the cop.

It would make more sense if the cop car was fully in the lane, with his lights on. Otherwise, having a little slice of his car in the lane is asking for trouble. For example, if a cop pulls over a car to the shoulder, his best bet is to not be in the lane at all.

 

[Barklikeadog]

Either he is looking for an excuse for his inattentive behavior or he is a new owner of a used vehicle and doesn’t understand the capabilities of a AP1 car.

Does the Automated Emergency Braking system require driver attention?
Or does it 'detect objects that the car may impact and apply the brakes accordingly' all on its own?

 

[Barklikeadog]

I don't understand the logic of this, considering if a car hits the patrol car, it'll go flying into the cop.

It would make more sense if the cop car was fully in the lane, with his lights on. Otherwise, having a little slice of his car in the lane is asking for trouble. For example, if a cop pulls over a car to the shoulder, his best bet is to not be in the lane at all.

The logic is the police cruise parked at an angle, if hit, will send the cruiser off the road instead of forward into the broken down vehicle, those occupants, or the officer. People (and drunks) have a tendency to follow tail lights.

It is also meant to influence traffic to move over, giving an officer more space while out of his vehicle.

 

[race4life81]

Amazing that AP didn't pick it up. My 3 year old Range Rover and 5 Year old MB C300 have picked up vehicles partially blocking the lane and slowed down when using 'Radar Cruise Control'. Tesla needs to do better.

 

[Barklikeadog]

Amazing that AP didn't pick it up. My 3 year old Range Rover and 5 Year old MB C300 have picked up vehicles partially blocking the lane and slowed down when using 'Radar Cruise Control'. Tesla needs to do better.

My truck gives a collision alert in these scenarios.

 

[MP3Mike]

Amazing that AP didn't pick it up. My 3 year old Range Rover and 5 Year old MB C300 have picked up vehicles partially blocking the lane and slowed down when using 'Radar Cruise Control'. Tesla needs to do better.

Remember that this was a 6 year old vehicle based on the Mobileye system, not a HW2/2.5/3 system based on Tesla's current hardware/software.

 

[race4life81]

Remember that this was a 6 year old vehicle based on the Mobileye system, not a HW2/2.5/3 system based on Tesla's current hardware/software.

Fair enough. I still blame the idiot driver who didn't intervene in time. There is a rule now here in Melbourne (AU) we have to leave 1.5 meters to an emergency vehicle stopped on the road and slow down to 40km/h while we pass them, 3 demerit points and $350 fine for not following that rule.

 

[Barklikeadog]

Remember that this was a 6 year old vehicle based on the Mobileye system, not a HW2/2.5/3 system based on Tesla's current hardware/software.

At what point does a Mobileye generation vehicle become a driverless robotaxi?
Or will these owners get refunds?

 

[MP3Mike]

At what point does a Mobileye generation vehicle become a driverless robotaxi?
Or will these owners get refunds?

Never. And no refund. They were never sold with that as a feature. (At least as far as I can recall.)

 

[mongo]

At what point does a Mobileye generation vehicle become a driverless robotaxi?
Or will these owners get refunds?

What @MP3Mike said. AP1 was never going to be FSD, nor can it be retrofitted. Traffic aware cruise control and lane keeping/ manually triggered lane changing.

From link in previous post
AP1 Hardware Suite:

• Front camera (single monochrome)
• Front radar with range of 525 feet / 160 meters (Bosch Mid-range radar sensor)
• 12 ultrasonic sensors with 16 ft range / 5 meters
• Rear camera for driver only (not used in Autopilot)
• Mobileye EyeQ3 computing platform

 

[Barklikeadog]

Never. And no refund. They were never sold with that as a feature. (At least as far as I can recall.)

Pardon my ignorance, I recall 2015 being the year of autonomous driving being a 'solved problem'
I have often seen discussions of AP1 upgrades.
Didn't know that this was a line in the sand, Musk seemed pretty optimistic back then that those owners would have FSD.