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Tesla in deal with Daimler
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graham
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Yeah, I've seen a Smart parked regularly out by the service entrance for a while now.
graham
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Oh sure, the picture I just posted has no distinguishing marks on it, and is just "yet-another-Smart-at-Tesla"... but ones earlier in this thread were pictured with Manufacturers plates, which wouldn't be something a standard employee would have.
I don't mean to raise expectations, but I kind of doubt that Tesla won't be providing the batteries.
A. The Smart EV (ED is a stupid name) is only going to be around 1,000 cars, according to the ABG article. Many automakers are using large-format prismatic batteries, like the block shaped batteries in the iMiEV. There are very few uses for high amp hour prismatic batteries so naturally they cost alot of money because of the economies of scale. It would be very expensive to make a small batch of batteries just for 1,000 cars.
B. The Model S is reportedly using a flat shaped ESS. And look, the Smart also has a flat battery pack. (Although it's not like it could come in any other shape)
C. Elon isn't stupid. Why would he mention a relationship with Mercedes if he wasn't confident that somethign was going to happen? Tesla has said that they have had multiple auto-makers approach them, and out of all these unnamed auto-makers, Elon chose to name Mercedes.
A. The Smart EV (ED is a stupid name) is only going to be around 1,000 cars, according to the ABG article. Many automakers are using large-format prismatic batteries, like the block shaped batteries in the iMiEV. There are very few uses for high amp hour prismatic batteries so naturally they cost alot of money because of the economies of scale. It would be very expensive to make a small batch of batteries just for 1,000 cars.
B. The Model S is reportedly using a flat shaped ESS. And look, the Smart also has a flat battery pack. (Although it's not like it could come in any other shape)
C. Elon isn't stupid. Why would he mention a relationship with Mercedes if he wasn't confident that somethign was going to happen? Tesla has said that they have had multiple auto-makers approach them, and out of all these unnamed auto-makers, Elon chose to name Mercedes.
graham
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I hope so too. According to this:
Tesla Motors - think
I am hoping the powertrain sales includes the Smart Car. Of course Tesla is only one half of that deal. It is possible that Daimler may get nervous because of the Model S delays and pull out.
Or it may be that the six month shift in Model S has been made in order to help honour the tighter timescale(?) of the Daimler deal.
Or equally, they may be happy to adjust as Tesla builds the Model S/drivetrain plant.
e-mobility Berlin
Daimler has commited 100 electric Smarts to the e-mobility Berlin scheme. The specs on these cars seem fairly average with a range of 100 miles quoted.
EVWORLD NEWSWIRE: Berlin to Deploy Largest Electric Car Network in World
Hopefully they are also working on a longer range version for the Smart Electric Drive, the production version previewed at the Paris Motor Show.
I have written to my local Mercedes\Smart distributor asking to be notified when they will be available in Australia and they expressed the intention to bring them here in 2010\11 but no guarantees.
Daimler has commited 100 electric Smarts to the e-mobility Berlin scheme. The specs on these cars seem fairly average with a range of 100 miles quoted.
EVWORLD NEWSWIRE: Berlin to Deploy Largest Electric Car Network in World
Hopefully they are also working on a longer range version for the Smart Electric Drive, the production version previewed at the Paris Motor Show.
I have written to my local Mercedes\Smart distributor asking to be notified when they will be available in Australia and they expressed the intention to bring them here in 2010\11 but no guarantees.
graham
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Merc for under 30.000$ USD?
This is very low price for a gas powered Merc, I don't see how an electric one could only cost that much.
This is very low price for a gas powered Merc, I don't see how an electric one could only cost that much.
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