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I read that Tesla is in negotiations with Samsung to supply batteries. Does anyone have any more information on this? I'm wondering what impact this may have on Q2 guidance.
Yeah, I was thinking at the Q2 release press conference they would give guidance for going forward.Here is the link: http://www.valuewalk.com/2013/07/tesla-motors-inc-tsla-global-battery-buyer/
Q2 guidance? You meant to say 2nd half?
In Tesla's 2012 10-K annual report they mention:
" For example, while several sources of the battery cell we have selected for our battery packs are available, we have fully qualified only two suppliers for these cells."
That second supplier may have been Samsung all along.
Yes, I agree, unless Tesla enters into some kind of exclusive agreement with them.Not super thrilled with this. Samsung has demonstrated that they have no problem with taking their supply role and becoming direct competitors (or at least somehow accelerating your competitors)
I think it is very wise for Tesla to seek out and qualify additional suppliers that meets their specifications. Disrupting a single-sourced part critical to their business can be risky business. i.e. Panasonic battery factory blows up or earthquake in the region.
Not super thrilled with this. Samsung has demonstrated that they have no problem with taking their supply role and becoming direct competitors (or at least somehow accelerating your competitors)
I don't see a fear of Samsung supplying battery to anyone else. The content and cell format has been patented by Tesla.
That didn't stop Samsung and Google from copying Apple in spite of Apple's patents and copyrights. However, there's probably no help for it. Tesla needs multiple suppliers and those suppliers need to be big enough and have enough quality control to deliver the correct product.
I'm torn, but in general, as an investor in TM, I'm happy they'll have a 2nd supplier but it brings pros/cons. The obvious pro being more supply as Panasonic might be at its limit and not able to ramp up as fast as needed without major capitol spend. And several more pros but a big con is keeping relations in good standing so I hope TM is forthright about needing a 2nd supplier with Panasonic.
Samsung as a company, is a strong competitor and seems to play nice with Panasonic. They have a history of joint ventures and successful outcomes but there has been litigation so treading lightly would be in order.
In a perfect world having a 2nd battery supplier with global reach, a track record of process innovation, industry leading high quality manufacturing methods and stable long term contract deliverables is key to TM getting to GenIII. Battery production in the country of final sale would also be ideal to avoid import tarrifs.
Samsung is the world's #2 cell supplier, so logical go-to for second supplier after #1 Panasonic. However, they are selling a Samsung-Kia EV in Korea, so they likely will treat Tesla just like they did Apple. Caveat Emptor!
GSP