SwedishAdvocate
Active Member
Also: Since the arm rest in the Model S isn’t adjustable in height, can all drivers find comfortable setting to support their elbow/arm while driving? Even a 2012 European VW Passat has this feature…
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I like porsche. If tesla can add a passenger torchscreen dashboard screen like this concept but a tad bigger.
it will be a win. You could watch videos, pics, browse, etc.
the gears also give it that spaceship feel that elon refers to. but knowing what elon says vs reality.
i'm not getting my hopes up
dgpcolorado
high altitude member
Your post makes me glad that I ended up with the black "textile" seats on my CPO. Almost 26,000 miles and they look about the same as when I got the car at <7000 miles: like new.
FlatSix911
Porsche 918 Hybrid
SwedishAdvocate
Active Member
In the Porsche Mission E concept, I would prefer if the center portrait screen was placed higher up on the dash. Preferably as high up as possible without it interfering with the drivers view out of the windscreen. It also looks like that center portrait screen in the Mission E could be a bit bigger. Anyway… That’s (kind of) the way the center screen is placed in the current Panamera. In the Panamera it’s in landscape though, so it seems it's possible to design good looking dash solutions with the center screen in both landscape and portrait…
Image Credit: Porsche. Image shows the current Panamera interior in black.
Image Credit: Porsche. Image shows the current Panamera interior in black.
doctorwho
Active Member
Agree, the cloth seats look good, keep looking good, and are warmer in winter, cooler in summer. I'm so glad that I didn't get leather.
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Village Idiot
I still prefer the look of this more than anything that's being posted on this thread. I just hope my seats don't get wrinkly.
hill
high fiber member
oh ....you mean like this - after just ONE HOUR in the seat after we picked it up !?!
It's not like either of us are over 200lbs or something ...
personally, not sure which is more horrifying - the quickly wrinkling side support or the stretched butt area. Kind of makes us wonder how bad it'd look by now, if we had actually been driving the car since its arrival last december ...
but since the paint was messed up in a couple areas, and had a bad plastic area . . . . . and since it had a bad air suspension module . . . . we've only driven it back & forth to the shop a few times. And the rework isn't done yet ... so we haven't even been able to have them mess with the leather yet. Lucky us.
Glad most of the group isn't experiencing this from the get go.
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Geez, it's freaking leather! A natural material. The softer it is, the more it deforms. You can have more rigid leather that wrinkles less, but it is also less soft. I sympathize with your overall issues, but methinks you are being a bit picky on this. FWIW my 12 @ 35k miles looks about same as your 1 hour pic
K-MTG
Sunshade Captain of TMC
P100DHG.
Member
This is the norm from what I can tell. I am buying the car knowing that I am going to have to either file a claim with tesla or take it to an upholstery guy I know to rework the seat. I just am anticipating it.
Leather is most certainly not "natural," at all. Let's think about to whom it belonged first, before it was placed on your seat:
There is nothing “natural” about clothing made from animals’ skin or fur. In addition to causing the suffering and deaths of millions of animals each year, the production of wool, fur, and leather contributes to climate change, land devastation, pollution, and water contamination.
Source:
Wool, Fur, and Leather: Hazardous to the Environment
As a "green" environmentally-friendly car company, the fact that Tesla offers a murdered cow interior at all is hard to understand, especially given the stunning environmental and human toll from leather production:
http://gizmodo.com/how-leather-is-slowly-killing-the-people-and-places-tha-1572678618
http://sploid.gizmodo.com/the-process-of-turning-raw-cow-hide-into-leather-is-rea-1661441910
What color and seat style is that? Seems worst than most that I've seen after such light use
I do not disagree with your objection to use of leather for environmental and cruelty reasons. But I do disagree with your parsing of the language. Leather IS a natural material, meaning it is from nature as opposed to a material that is constructed or synthesized. And my point was that, as such, it has grains and is subject to irregularities.
I hope the 3 has synthetic or cloth seats that make you, me, and Hill happy.
mkspeedr
Member
I wish no center console was an option. My dad just traded his Dec 2014 P85D for a P100D for the AP2 and center console. I think the console makes the inside feel smaller.
The new seats are nice.
The new seats are nice.
EternalChampion
Member
I love my yacht floor and next gens. I'm somewhat hopeful that the full activation of AP2 doesn't happen for awhile so I'm not enticed to move up to a P100D.
Garlan Garner
Banned
I'm not sure how many of you watched the Superbowl today - Simply amazing......however More importantly - the Ford commercial.
I am not an advocate of HUD at all, however Ford seems to have encorperated M3 features such as an "ahhemm" decent looking HUD. The vents aren't hidden, however the steering wheel is. How minimal are you thinking about? LOL
The seats on my 3 year old P85 look great as well. But everyone complained about how stiff they were, remember? So Tesla made a change and now we have the complaints about wear. My X has the white seats and there is no wrinkling after 11k miles and 10 months. Maybe the vegan interior is the way forward - but in multiple colors.