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Tesla/J1772 adapter available from Tesla's website

Discussion in 'Supercharging & Charging Infrastructure' started by dsm363, Apr 27, 2011.

  1. TEG

    TEG Teslafanatic

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    Any make of high performance car has a contingent of enthusiasts who try to understand (and tweak) the inner workings.
    Being a low volume auto, and mostly proprietary, I think the Roadster has less poking around and modifying than many other cars.
    Heck, the only german "tuner" to really touch it, Brabus, just did cosmetic modifications.

    No aftermarket longer range packs... No performance upgrade 'chips'.
     
  2. TEG

    TEG Teslafanatic

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    It doesn't seem to me that the log monitoring has caused more demands on Tesla. To the contrary it seems like it helped answer some nagging questions, and so people didn't have to keep asking Tesla those questions.
     
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    I really hope that Matt Farrell's attitude is more tuned in to reality. I have plenty of cookie, soda, smoothie, and imported chocolate options within walking distance of the Seattle Testa Store. The key thing is that I can afford my own food treats - it's the Tesla Roadster service that cannot be purchased anywhere else at any price. I really hope that Farrell focuses on improving actual service and not just making the service department into a fatten-em-up-and-kick-em-out-happy factory.

    That said, I actually have no complaints with the Seattle Tesla Store service. They fix the things that can be fixed. The Alpine still has its flaws, but that's not really something a Tesla tech can fix. There's clearly room for improvement to meet the needs of all the Seattle-area customers that need service, but I don't think chocolate smoothies are what led to the complaints.
     
  4. dj905

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    I just received my J1772 adapter last week, and have tried out a couple of different Chargepoint network charging stations at Toronto-Sheraton and Waterloo-Conestoga Mall. In both cases, my first attempt caused a GFCI failure. On the second or third attempt, the charger worked fine, and charged for as long as I wanted. Is there a specific connection method that I should be using (e.g. should I plug the adapter into the car before I connect the J1772 end)? Has anyone else seen intermittent issues with the adapter?

    Thanks,
    David
     
  5. smorgasbord

    smorgasbord Active Member

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    Yes: Use the Tesla connector at the car to make/break the connection. Thus:

    To setup: Attach the adapter to the charge unit, then use the Tesla end to connect to the car.

    To breakdown: Disconnect the Tesla end from the car, then remove the adapter from the charge unit cable.

    One way to remember this is that the adapter cable converts the cable.
     
  6. vfx

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    The food is simply a (sample) metaphor for upscale service.
     
  7. markwj

    markwj Moderator, Asia Pacific

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    Are you sure? I was really looking forward to the smoothies :biggrin:
     
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    Well my car runs smoothie...
     
  9. bonnie

    bonnie I play a nice person on twitter.

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    I'm so voting for the smoothies. Dark chocolate truffles. None of that milk chocolate stuff. A neck massage would be good, too. (In case he's reading.)
     
  10. PaulM

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    About the Passat... didn't think there would be any interest...

    I found someone with a VAG-COM (interface between OBDII port and laptop) and the first hint was an error "inconsistent manifold pressure reading" although the engine light wasn't on. While driving we were able to observe the intake manifold pressure the computer "saw" and it was fixed at a little over atmospheric which made no sense (it should go up and down, especially when the turbo kicks in). There's a small hose that goes from the intake manifold to a sensor in the computer. I checked all the connections and they were all fine. I then took the computer out of the car and checked the brass fitting on the computer... it was blocked. Strangely enough I had to drill it through!!!

    When accelerating, the computer asks for X amount of boost from the turbo and when it doesn't see the correct amount of pressure, after a few seconds, it cuts the turbo figuring something is wrong. The engine continues to run but without the help of the turbo.

    Since this couldn't have been that way since the car was new, I had a look at the printout I got from the dealer, and right there in black and white, only a few thousand KMs before the previous owner complained, the computer was replaced as part of a recall.

    How two dealers couldn't figure it out is beyond me!
     
  11. bonnie

    bonnie I play a nice person on twitter.

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    You didn't think there'd be any interest?? Are you new here?

    :)
     
  12. dhrivnak

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    Getting back to the intial thread I just had my Tesla 1.5 serviced and with the new firmware the car now charges at the Nissan Aero chargers now available at MANY Nissan dealers. I have now charged at Columb, Eaton and Aero J1772 chargers successfully.
     
  13. dwegmull

    dwegmull 2013 Model S 85

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    I have successfully charged my 2.0 Roadster (with up to date firmware) using a Blink residential evse.
     
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    Something about that paragraph seems vaguely familiar, like it's something I could have written myself a while back.

    At least they didn't cancel your Model S order.
     
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    That's not true. Carl was a one-man service center working out of his own facility starting in early 2009. A second service tech was added later that year after the official Tesla store opened. It was only recently, less than a year ago, that there was a third service person added.

    Chad's problem had nothing to do with the number of service employees in Seattle or the amount of free time they have between surges in service jobs. Chad's problem was all about lack of support from corporate. Carl wanted to work on Chad's car, but could not. This happens a lot. There are a number of problems that Carl has solved despite a complete lack of support from corporate. Unfortunately, Chad's problem required support from corporate.

    And just for the record, the Seattle service guys work their asses off. Carl is finally taking his first vacation since starting with Tesla in early 2009. While the shop may be empty from time to time, there are plenty of times when there are so many cars in there being worked on that it's hard to walk through the shop. The Seattle crew services customers in Washington, Oregon, Idaho, Montana, British Columbia and Alaska. Carl often works seven days a week and flies into Idaho desert or sub-arctic Alaska on a moment's notice. There are times when there are cars in the shop waiting for service while the service techs are making house calls throughout the northwest US and western Canada. Lulls in work at the shop give them time to catch up on paperwork.
     
  16. doug

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    Discussion about Lloyd's DIY TS-70 to J1772 conversion went here.
     
  17. ViperDoc

    ViperDoc Roadster 1305

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    I have tried using a J1772 adapter to charge at 2 different Coulomb stations and 1 Nissan station, all to no avail when it fails with a ground fault. More than a little frustrating. I am hoping they will look at my PEM when I have my annual service done later this month.
     
  18. tomsax

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    I'll bet you have a 2.x Roadster. The 2.x Roadster has a higher ground current pull at the beginning of a charge which can trip some hair-trigger charging stations. (SemaConnect, for example, possibly also Schneider and OpConnect.)

    Amazingly, stations can choose to fault at either 5 mA or 20 mA. Both levels are quite safe, but the 5 mA limit is incompatible with the 2.x Roadsters. Clipper Creek, Blink, ChargePoint, and AeroVironment use the 20 mA threshold and are generally compatible with all Roadsters.

    A few 2.x Roadster have exceptional issues with ground faults. Tesla has been reluctant to fix this problem, or even acknowledge it. Chad had a big problem and was getting blown off until he went public with the total lack of response from Tesla and cancelled his Model S order because of their complete disregard for customer service. Tesla can fix this problem by replacing your PEM, but you may have to push pretty hard to make it happen. I recommend you do push and if you don't get results, send me a private message and I'll help you push.
     
  19. TEG

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    Some related reading:
    The GFCI topic
    EVDL Archive / Forum Interface - Electric Vehicle Discussion List
     
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    ViperDoc Roadster 1305

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    Thank you. Yes, I have a 2.5 Roadster, and the Coulomb stations were Chargepoints. The Nissan dealership was whatever they charge a Leaf with.

    DJ
     

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