Tesla loses U.S. designation for some advanced safety features

[WBC2021]

UPDATE 1-Tesla loses U.S. designation for some advanced safety features

Newer Tesla Model 3 and Model Y vehicles will no longer be labeled as having some advanced safety features after the automaker said it was removing radar sensors to transition to a camera-based Autopilot system, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) said Wednesday. The U.S...

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[smogne41]

Curious if there will be a sale on $TSLA tomorrow?

 

[savicbo]

The "Tesla transitioning to Tesla Vision" thread has some great conversation about this if anyone is interested Page 12 and beyond. Tesla.com - "Transitioning to Tesla Vision"

 

[guccitrash]

Uh oh, does this mean insurance might be more expensive on future Model Ys?

 

[Darblish]

Uh oh, does this mean insurance might be more expensive on future Model Ys?

If by “future” you mean ones manufactured as far back as last month, yes.

 

[savicbo]

Uh oh, does this mean insurance might be more expensive on future Model Ys?

While I truly can't imagine core safety features like this not being present, I would imagine that if not present then yes, it would absolutely affect insurance rates in my opinion.

 

[glide]

Making this change to save $10 on a radar is many orders of magnitude beyond stupid.

 

[ankit]

Seriously considering putting my order on hold, and take delivery in Q3 if/when they figure this out.

 

[DGMVW]

They will all be back...this is only software limited at this time. NHTSA will check the boxes again when they are back via software updates.

 

[with_raiden]

I have been looking at message threads like this one on this forum for the last few days and I couldn't help, but to say the following. Nothing is being taking away from us permanently, all the "missing" features will be returned soon. As for NHTSA, they will test "Tesla Vision" and conclude it's just as good if not better than what was there before. Also, Tesla is not the only car maker making this move (Honda is doing the same thing and I am hopeful others will follow).

 

[ankit]

My concern is that this move is premature. Removing the radar was clearly accelerated by the parts supply issue. I have no doubt Tesla will figure out a way to get back the NHTSA rating and bring back the features they advertise. It is not clear how long this would take. My current EDD Is May 30, so I am considering to put the order on hold and wait until September to see if they figure this out by then.

 

[Darblish]

I have been looking at message threads like this one on this forum for the last few days and I couldn't help, but to say the following. Nothing is being taking away from us permanently, all the "missing" features will be returned soon. As for NHTSA, they will test "Tesla Vision" and conclude it's just as good if not better than what was there before. Also, Tesla is not the only car maker making this move (Honda is doing the same thing and I am hopeful others will follow).

NHTSA doesn’t test for the “checkboxes” on those safety features. For them to switch from “standard” to “no,” Tesla would have been the ones to tell NHTSA to make the change. Tesla will also be the ones to tell them to change it back.

You’re correct that Honda also changed to all-vision (and I think a single forward camera?). They didn’t disable extremely-common safety features when they did, though.

 

[glide]

They will all be back...this is only software limited at this time. NHTSA will check the boxes again when they are back via software updates.

This is not accurate. It is a hardware change.

Tesla is removing the radar modules and attempting to replace the functionality through software. Attempting being the key word.

 

[Celeritas]

This is not accurate. It is a hardware change.

Tesla is removing the radar modules and attempting to replace the functionality through software. Attempting being the key word.

Yes, and it's not like they added new cameras, otherwise they would have brought that up.