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Tesla achieved record vehicle production in the first quarter of 2018, including nearly 10,000 Model 3s, the company said today. In total, the company manufactured 34,494 vehicles. “The Model 3 output increased exponentially, representing a fourfold increase over last quarter,” Tesla said in a release. “This is the fastest growth of any automotive company in...
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Kingdragon8

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They pitch it like it is the most "amazing accomplishment in automotive history!" ........ what a load of crap! Any OEM in the "modern era" that had this UGLY of a ramp-up of a new vehicle would be considered a massive failure! Considering the "absolute" guarantee by the CEO, the really poor production numbers, and the pushing out of questionable quality vehicles in a panic effort to produce just a couple of thousand a week , this company is doomed!
 

Joelgjr

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They pitch it like it is the most "amazing accomplishment in automotive history!" ........ what a load of crap! Any OEM in the "modern era" that had this UGLY of a ramp-up of a new vehicle would be considered a massive failure! Considering the "absolute" guarantee by the CEO, the really poor production numbers, and the pushing out of questionable quality vehicles in a panic effort to produce just a couple of thousand a week , this company is doomed!

They aren't putting out "questionable quality vehicles". There's been no evidence of this..
 

Phrixotrichus

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They aren't putting out "questionable quality vehicles". There's been no evidence of this..
There`s actually been a LOT of evidence, but every time a case shows up it`s "something special" "a sad individual case" an "ICE-fan conspiracy" or just "early production issues".....

Model S DUs and door handles, general panel alignment, paint issues, creaking etc come to mind. Tesla is not putting out quality that resembles their prices yet. It´s gotten a lot better, but for their price range it`s still....eh.
 

jelloslug

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They pitch it like it is the most "amazing accomplishment in automotive history!" ........ what a load of crap! Any OEM in the "modern era" that had this UGLY of a ramp-up of a new vehicle would be considered a massive failure! Considering the "absolute" guarantee by the CEO, the really poor production numbers, and the pushing out of questionable quality vehicles in a panic effort to produce just a couple of thousand a week , this company is doomed!
Lol, the current aluminum F-150 had a horrible roll out and was at limited production for almost 6 months.
 

EinSV

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They aren't putting out "questionable quality vehicles". There's been no evidence of this..

You are right. And Tesla directly addressed the misinformation being spread about Model 3 quality directly in their update, along with the FUD being spread about cancellations:
  • The quality of Model 3 coming out of production is at the highest level we have seen across all our products. This is reflected in the overwhelming delight experienced by our customers with their Model 3's. Our initial customer satisfaction score for Model 3 quality is above 93%, which is the highest score in Tesla's history.
  • Net Model 3 reservations remained stable through Q1. The reasons for order cancellation are almost entirely due to delays in production in general and delays in availability of certain planned options, particularly dual motor AWD and the smaller battery pack. As described above, owner happiness with the product is extremely high.
Tesla Q1 2018 Vehicle Production and Deliveries (NASDAQ:TSLA)
 

Kingdragon8

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Guys first post is doom and gloom, possibly has ulterior motives.
Typical Tesla lemming! Blind to the realities of how a "competitive" OEM operates compared to Tesla. My evidence is this blog (citing totally unbelievable defects of prior Model 3...compared to ANY other OEM new vehicle launch), facts from employees on 40% rework (compared to near PERFECT quality by ANY other OEM), and decades in the automotive industry that suggests that "Musk taking over production (compared to ANY other OEM that actually has someone that knows what they are doing in charge), and late Saturday push to "get them out!". Building a small electric sedan to improve profits is simply crazy....ANY other OEM makes NO money on these entries....they are simply a means of meeting CAFE and CARB standards...allowing they to make money on the other products. Finally, the Model 3 is priced for the "Early Adopters (kinda like Lemmings)" who will pay $50k for a $30k vehicle...and by the end of the year the $7.5k incentive is gone. A company valued at $40+ billion needs to make serious money! I say they will not make it and am short Tesla.
 

jelloslug

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There`s actually been a LOT of evidence, but every time a case shows up it`s "something special" "a sad individual case" an "ICE-fan conspiracy" or just "early production issues".....

Model S DUs and door handles, general panel alignment, paint issues, creaking etc come to mind. Tesla is not putting out quality that resembles their prices yet. It´s gotten a lot better, but for their price range it`s still....eh.
Compared to what? I have owned German cars and they are not the "precision devices" that people make them out to be.
 

jelloslug

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Typical Tesla lemming! Blind to the realities of how a "competitive" OEM operates compared to Tesla. My evidence is this blog (citing totally unbelievable defects of prior Model 3...compared to ANY other OEM new vehicle launch), facts from employees on 40% rework (compared to near PERFECT quality by ANY other OEM), and decades in the automotive industry that suggests that "Musk taking over production (compared to ANY other OEM that actually has someone that knows what they are doing in charge), and late Saturday push to "get them out!". Building a small electric sedan to improve profits is simply crazy....ANY other OEM makes NO money on these entries....they are simply a means of meeting CAFE and CARB standards...allowing they to make money on the other products. Finally, the Model 3 is priced for the "Early Adopters (kinda like Lemmings)" who will pay $50k for a $30k vehicle...and by the end of the year the $7.5k incentive is gone. A company valued at $40+ billion needs to make serious money! I say they will not make it and am short Tesla.
Have you ever been in an auto factory before? Rework is so common across the industry that they have dedicated facilities and employees to handle it all.
 

Kingdragon8

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Lol, the current aluminum F-150 had a horrible roll out and was at limited production for almost 6 months.
Ford produces 60,000 per month of F150's AND ACTUALLY MAKES MONEY ON THEM....WHAT AN ODD CONCEPT FOR TESLA!
Have you ever been in an auto factory before? Rework is so common across the industry that they have dedicated facilities and employees to handle it all.
I have spent decades in the auto industry including factories in USA, Mexico, Canada, China, Japan, Thailand, Germany, France, Italy, England, and others......there is NOTHING like the Tesla performance (failures)/market cap that has ever existed. One close is Qoros where someone else (a Israel billionaire) wanted to do the same thing...electric small cars and lost billions.
 

sandpiper

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Lol, the current aluminum F-150 had a horrible roll out and was at limited production for almost 6 months.

Exactly. Roll-outs of any substantially new design are always low level chaos. Tesla is not unique. And there are a lot of people in that plant who have come from other automotive OEMs. Other companies are simply not under the microscope to the same degree.
 

dmode

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Ford produces 60,000 per month of F150's AND ACTUALLY MAKES MONEY ON THEM....WHAT AN ODD CONCEPT FOR TESLA!

I have spent decades in the auto industry including factories in USA, Mexico, Canada, China, Japan, Thailand, Germany, France, Italy, England, and others......there is NOTHING like the Tesla performance (failures)/market cap that has ever existed. One close is Qoros where someone else (a Israel billionaire) wanted to do the same thing...electric small cars and lost billions.

I am glad you came here to enlighten us with your superior auto industry expertise in your first 3 posts in this blog
 

Dan Detweiler

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Apr 21, 2016
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Typical Tesla lemming! Blind to the realities of how a "competitive" OEM operates compared to Tesla. My evidence is this blog (citing totally unbelievable defects of prior Model 3...compared to ANY other OEM new vehicle launch), facts from employees on 40% rework (compared to near PERFECT quality by ANY other OEM), and decades in the automotive industry that suggests that "Musk taking over production (compared to ANY other OEM that actually has someone that knows what they are doing in charge), and late Saturday push to "get them out!". Building a small electric sedan to improve profits is simply crazy....ANY other OEM makes NO money on these entries....they are simply a means of meeting CAFE and CARB standards...allowing they to make money on the other products. Finally, the Model 3 is priced for the "Early Adopters (kinda like Lemmings)" who will pay $50k for a $30k vehicle...and by the end of the year the $7.5k incentive is gone. A company valued at $40+ billion needs to make serious money! I say they will not make it and am short Tesla.
 

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