Tesla Model 3 in Australia

[Mark E]

Old vehicles which would be taken off the road anywhere else are a problem in Aus but imho this could be partially fixed by introducing a real roadworthy certificate like in europe and make it compulsary every 2 years for cars older than 5 years. .

You mean like we have had in NSW for years? And its every year. I fully support it.

 

[Candleflame]

You mean like we have had in NSW for years? And its every year. I fully support it.

really? I had no idea that there was such a difference between states.

 

[baillies]

In nsw it only applies after 5 years. Not sure about QLD. eSafety checks (pink slips)

The problem is there is no emission test that I am aware of (other than no smell of oil smoke) but I think most of Europe may have these especially after dieselgate.

 

[Candleflame]

Europe generally has a roadworthy like in NSW after 5 years and then every 2 or 3 years depending on the country. They check lights, brakes, steering, suspension, anything safety related basically and then the vehicle also has to pass an emissions test. On top of that i.e. in Germany the road tax is linked to emissions and unless you are in the top 2 bands you will pay about 5x rego. Can be occasionally a problem with older petrol cars. Once the car reaches a certain age it actually does not have to pay road tax anymore (30 years or so) as it counts as an antique. Makes it very annoying to drive cars older than 20 years old as you pay through the nose to keep them on the road.

My parents recently fitted their Diesel with some new particulate filter/exhaust processor. And they only have a 'small' 2L diesel. If you plan to keep the car for more than a few years longer it is worth it because you pay less tax.

QLD has no inspection, you can get a roadworthy certficiate which lasts 3months/1000km but it is only for selling the vehicle really I think. I had a look at mine and it looked rather "light". The only useful thing they check is brake alignment and wear imho.

I'd be a big fan of emission tests as I cycle a lot and it is quite frankly sometimes unbareable if a Diesel V8 SUV overtakes you on a 8% incline and a cloud of black smokes surrounds you and you cannot breathe. Im actually somewhat convinced that this is a deliberate choice by the manufacturer as exhaust filters reduce horsepower and since exhausts dont matter in Aus there is no incentive to filter the exhausts.

 

[Blue heaven]

Europe generally has a roadworthy like in NSW after 5 years and then every 2 or 3 years depending on the country. They check lights, brakes, steering, suspension, anything safety related basically and then the vehicle also has to pass an emissions test. On top of that i.e. in Germany the road tax is linked to emissions and unless you are in the top 2 bands you will pay about 5x rego. Can be occasionally a problem with older petrol cars. Once the car reaches a certain age it actually does not have to pay road tax anymore (30 years or so) as it counts as an antique. Makes it very annoying to drive cars older than 20 years old as you pay through the nose to keep them on the road.

My parents recently fitted their Diesel with some new particulate filter/exhaust processor. And they only have a 'small' 2L diesel. If you plan to keep the car for more than a few years longer it is worth it because you pay less tax.

QLD has no inspection, you can get a roadworthy certficiate which lasts 3months/1000km but it is only for selling the vehicle really I think. I had a look at mine and it looked rather "light". The only useful thing they check is brake alignment and wear imho.

I'd be a big fan of emission tests as I cycle a lot and it is quite frankly sometimes unbareable if a Diesel V8 SUV overtakes you on a 8% incline and a cloud of black smokes surrounds you and you cannot breathe. Im actually somewhat convinced that this is a deliberate choice by the manufacturer as exhaust filters reduce horsepower and since exhausts dont matter in Aus there is no incentive to filter the exhausts.

A modern Diesel has 4 requirements- long term reliability, satisfactory torque and power, low fuel consumption and in recent years low exaust pollution, there is no way all these four can be achieved without cheating from the vehicle makers, an owner will complain about lack of reliability, poor performance or poor fuel economy, very few notice or care about the pollution their vehicle is causing, it's time to get Diesel's out of the city and suburbs, no more excuses from the authorities.

 

[paulp]

In nsw it only applies after 5 years. Not sure about QLD. eSafety checks (pink slips)

The problem is there is no emission test that I am aware of (other than no smell of oil smoke) but I think most of Europe may have these especially after dieselgate.

Take your tesla into a branch of the SA department and they would defect the car for having no exhaust pipe.

 

[Vostok]

Is it just me or is the Type 2 connector on this model 3 really high up and not centred within the charge port area. Plenty of room for two DC pins there to make it a CCS2 connector... thoughts?

New Tesla Model 3 with different plug spotted ahead of European launch

Man, it really annoys me when people take rubbish photos... they clearly could have walked up much closer and taken a proper photo of the charge port.

But looking at that I reckon we will see CCS2 in Euro (and by extension, Australian) Model 3s. It’s possible the DC pins have been covered up with a plug-in insert (can’t tell from that low-res photo).

 

[Vostok]

Take your tesla into a branch of the SA department and they would defect the car for having no exhaust pipe.

That’s very funny... or are you being serious?

 

[paulp]

That’s very funny... or are you being serious?

A couple of the SA inspectors aren’t overly good at their job, and in my experience have done some really stupid stuff

 

[aegidius]

Not sure about QLD.

Qld needs a RWC when buying/selling, otherwise no. Sensible.

 

[Candleflame]

Qld needs a RWC when buying/selling, otherwise no. Sensible.

the problem is not the driver who takes their car to get serviced regularly and reasonably looks after their car. The issue is with tons of people who drive around in cars which are essentially a risk to other drivers on the road.

 

[aegidius]

Getting OT, but how many accidents are caused by mechanical faults that would have been picked up by an RWC? I think the answer lies somewhere between zero and bugger-all. And no detectable difference between states that have yearly inspection and those that don't.

 

[Mark E]

Getting OT, but how many accidents are caused by mechanical faults that would have been picked up by an RWC? I think the answer lies somewhere between zero and bugger-all. And no detectable difference between states that have yearly inspection and those that don't.

https://www.monash.edu/__data/assets/pdf_file/0017/216710/muarc164.pdf

 

[Chuq]

Interesting....

(Tesla submission to senate select committee on EVs)

 

[Vostok]

Interesting....
(Tesla submission to senate select committee on EVs)

VERY interesting - good pickup! I’ve got a copy of this submission but haven’t had time to read it.

Surely this is all but confirmation that Model 3s (outside of NA and China) will have CCS2?

 

[Shock-On-T]

Not sure about research, but history seems to suggest otherwise. Didn’t Paul Keating raise the then Wholesale sales tax for luxury cars, only to reverse the change a couple of years later because it resulted in a significant decline in the sales of luxury cars?

It certainly discourages the purchase of luxury cars.
Price is the most effective lever in moving the market, and adding 10s of thousands to the cost of a vehicle is only going to push the market in one direction.
In a way it is a progressive tax (in the fiscal sense of 'progressive') so is fair enough. Galling as it is, if you are debating buying a car costing over $75,000 you are comparitively comfortable and perhaps we should be coughing up. I had a lovely chat with a lady the other day who was wistfully dreaming about buying an $18,000 2nd hand Honda CRV, and had been saving for it for a while.

 

[nigwil]

Here are all the submissions to the Senate committee on EVs...could be some good reading here:

Submissions – Parliament of Australia

 

[Shock-On-T]

not sure about the high prices, they seem a bit high. theres a different calculator here:
Model 3 LR RWD is 44k USD not 53k USD.

How much will Tesla Model 3 cost in Australia - Model 3 Price Calculator

Funny thing is, even though the prices are high that SR is a bargain.
The range is about the same as my S75D, but for less than half the price.

 

[Shock-On-T]

You mean like we have had in NSW for years? And its every year. I fully support it.

Do they do emissions checks?
I seem to see a lot of black smoke rolling out of every ute on the road...

 

[Shock-On-T]

https://www.monash.edu/__data/assets/pdf_file/0017/216710/muarc164.pdf

What, actual information?!
I am shocked and appalled to see such a thing on a forum...

This seems about right:
Between 1.3% and 24% of crashed vehicles had a defect that played a significant causal role in the crash.

I would guess the "dodgy brakes" category is over-represented in the cohort.