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If you see someone waving furiously at you while jumping up and down in another car after you pick up it's probably me.
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Tesla Model 3 in Australia
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If you see someone waving furiously at you while jumping up and down in another car after you pick up it's probably me.
Superchargers were designed for travelling, with most charging to be done at home. Early on this was made clear but as time has gone on there is no mention of it in official literature - it is only alluded to when Tesla started to restrict charging times and implementing pay-per-use and idle fees.
Whilst, I am sure it is convenient for you it really isn't for those that actually need the charge to complete a journey and are forced to wait for your car. There has been considerable frustration in Sydney from those of us trying to get a charge, only to sit in the car waiting for bays that are taken by UBER and Hire Cars. Yes, technically that was the deal with unlimited supercharging, but is completely against the spirit of the arrangement. If everyone had the attitude like yourself that they can use the supercharger network for all charging needs (which we are all entitled to), the network will be hopelessly overloaded. Waiting for an hour before plugging in at every supercharger may change your mind..
There is also evidence that supercharging only, is bad for the battery and eventually Tesla has throttled supercharging speeds for these cars.
Can confirm that UK and EU cars have it enabled. Given UK cars are identical to here, I suspect strongly that the hardware is there and it's just turned off. Perhaps we could collectively (whoever is interested) ask nicely for this to be enabled?
I will create a new thread to see how many people would be interested in this.
WoodWombat
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If you are doing 400km in a day around Melbourne, then you are not really just "out and about in the city".
You don't need an 11kW HPWC at home, even a 10A (or better still 15A) GPO will satisfy most people's daily needs with great ease. Assuming 12 hours of downtime per night, a 10A plug will give you over 120km of charge a night, and a 15A over 180km per night.
If you don't have off-street parking, then possibly an EV is not for you at this point. Although, with devices like the Urban Electric pop-up charger being developed, it might be worth talking to the council to put a few of these on the street. Make the area better for everyone with an EV.
RobDickinson
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TASKA9
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TASKA9
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haha don't tell too many people. I am eyeing on that one, as well as the two 22kw destination chargers at the Stockland Shopping Centre.
UK has had DAB+ in testing since 2013 and formally since 2016.
Tesla Model 3s delivered in the UK have DAB+ - I am 100% sure.
A lot of the EU has had DAB+ even before then.
European cars have been coming HERE with DAB+ as standard since 2014.
I was talking about DAB+ not DAB. I know that difference. Thanks.
Ridiculous. What is the attitude that you refer to? It is not just convenient, it is absolutely essential for me. Also, I don't intend to use the superchargers all the time, every time I need a charge. I have public chargers closer to me, which will be used most of the time. BUT, when convenient I will be using the supercharger if a bay is available. And I don't have a "me first" attitude at all, btw. There are more EV's on the road now and in the near future and this is a byproduct of supply/demand.
@WoodWombat sorry again but you need to learn to read properly. When did I say I was doing 400km in a day around Melbourne? If I am in the city for a meeting close by to the Richmond chargers, I would use it for a top up for 45 mins. As long as I am paying for it and a charger bay is available, I have every right to use it. If I am in another part of Melbourne, I'd obviously use a charger close to that destination.
I have a Model 3 right now. I don't need you to tell me whether an EV is right for me or not. That is for me and my family to decide and make a choice and work out how best we manage our charging, thank you very much indeed!
Rob again.... come on mate let’s take it out the back ( lol )
UK started moving to DAB+ in 2016 and DAB+ receivers are backward compatible with DAB. the difference is the codec they use DAB+ being lower bandwidth and also allowing greater range of transmission. I don’t think pure DAB chipsets have been produced for receivers since the early 2000’s when DAB+ Standard was introduced. So any car with ‘DAB’ should actually be a DAB+ chipset thus compatible with Australia/nz networks.
Sooooo the question remains.... are we getting DAB(actually DAB+) in our model 3’s??? I hope somebody who has already received their model 3 can confirm if it’s there or not. (I got verbal confirmation months ago from Tesla that we would, and somebody else posted an email from Tesla confirming that we would. Soooooo.... I’m just hoping we actually do).
RobDickinson
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hmm I know they trialed DAB_+ in UK didnt realise they had anyone using it!
then again I left the place 15 years ago ...
then again I left the place 15 years ago ...
That can’t be true. UK started upgrading their network from DAB to DAB+ in 2016. And the DAB+ chipset can receive both DAB and DAB+ so the DAB only chipset hasn’t been produced in a looooong time. (UK cars had DAB+ chipsets long before DAB+ was available as the standards body mandated receivers had to move forward ahead of the network rollout). The word DAB is often used colloquially including DAB+ so we shouldn’t be concerned about codec compatibility as Tesla couldn’t buy a DAB only chipset now even if they wanted to. The question is whether it’s in the AUNZ cars and turned on.
RobDickinson
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Google says up to 30 stations now DAB+ in uk but not sure what the coverage etc is like
DAB was a horrific standard to kick off with
DAB was a horrific standard to kick off with
Thanks for that @spidey . Good explanation.
I don't really understand why some people are arguing about this so much. If the hardware is there why wouldn't you want it enabled as another feature on your cars even if you never use it. Same with the browser. Not everyone will use it but I think it's great to have regardless. If the car's capable I would like it enabled. It really pisses me off when manufacturers disable things willy nilly for no reason whatsoever.
RobDickinson
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Because if the hardware and/or software is DAB only (not DAB+) it will serve no purpose unless you start a station broadcasting DAB
Yes,. but they also broadcast in DAB so a DAB only radio will pick them up
You're both right, technically everyone with a Tesla has the same entitlement and there is abit of an unspoken 'bro code' that the network shouldn't be abused.
The bottom line for me though is that no one knows (nor is it anyone's business to know) whether someone is charging on an interstate time challenge or a mid-week grocery run.
In some ways I think the pain of long queues is necessary. I am optimistic that it will act as a market signal, both to Tesla and to third party network operators that further investment (and ROI for them) is available. If Tesla doesn't see the network under strain, how will they know where and how many more to build out?
We the customers do need to be squeaky wheels as well to make sure the message is well received.
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