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Tesla Model 3: Three Year Review – Energy Used & Emissions (Part 3)

Part 3 of my three-year review covers: Energy Use and Carbon Emissions from driving 42,500 miles in our Model 3. Links to Parts 1-4 of the review are at the bottom.

We drove 42,500 miles in the first three years. I calculated how many kWh of electricity were sent to my car to charge the battery pack, and from that I estimated carbon emissions from producing the electricity.

3YearsMileage3-300x139.jpg


I don’t have a separate meter to record energy use by my home charging station so I started with the amount of energy that the car reported using, and worked back from there. I took into account charging inefficiencies and estimated energy use by BMS and Sentry Mode – the UI currently reports energy use while driving. This is a back of the envelope estimate so keep in mind that YMMV.

Energy Use

11,100 kWh of electricity were used to charge my car over 3 years.

Here’s how I came up with that number: My car reported using 8429 kWh from the battery pack while driving. After taking into account efficiency of home Level 2 charging (I assume 85%), how many kWh I got from Superchargers (1428), and efficiency of Supercharging (I assume 92%), we get to 9789 kWh. I estimate an additional 1 kWh per day for BMS and Sentry Mode (+ 85% efficiency) = 1290 kWh. That totals 11,079 kWh – rounding up to 11,100 kWh. So 11,100 kWh to drive 42,500 miles. This gives us an efficiency from the wall of about:

3.8 miles per kWh261 Wh per mile16 kWh per 100 km.

Emissions

I estimate that our carbon emissions from three years of driving the Model 3 were 5,445 lbs of CO2 (See Methods and spread sheet at bottom for details). That’s just 17% of the emissions from driving the same distance in a 25 MPG car, and 34% of the emissions from a 2010 Prius. Driving an electric car produced an immediate and large reduction in our carbon footprint.

Carbon-Footprint-for-text6.jpg


Comparing Gas and Electric Vehicles

There are two ways I compare the efficiency of gas and electric cars. One considers the kWh energy equivalent in a gallon of gas to compare the energy required to drive XX miles in gas-powered or electric cars. The second way is to compare emissions from driving electric versus gas.

Energy Equivalent Comparison: How does using 11,100 kWh to drive 42,500 miles compare to how much gasoline we would have used? One gallon of gas has the equivalent energy of 33.7 kWh of electricity. Using this approach, 11,100 kWh of electricity is the equivalent to the energy in 330 gallons of gas (11,100 kWh ÷ 33.7 kWh/gallon = 330 gallons). So 330 gallons of gas to drive 42,500 miles is like driving a car that gets 128 MPG. Electric cars are much more efficient than gas-powered cars and the reasons are straightforward: a lot of the energy released by burning gas is lost to heat and that sizable heat loss doesn’t happen with electric motors. Case in point: check out the snow on the hood of my electric car after driving 120 miles through a snow storm.

no-melt.jpg
Snow on the hood of my car after driving through a heavy snow storm – no gas furnace throwing away heat under the hood.

Emissions Comparison: Energy comparisons are interesting, but carbon emissions are key. Burning one gallon of gas releases 19.6 lbs of CO2 pretty much no matter where you burn it. Seasonal variations in gas additives that are required in some regions of the U.S. can have a small effect on GHG. In contrast, electricity is made from a variety of sources including renewables like hydroelectric, geothermal, wind, and solar, or from nuclear fission, or by burning natural gas, coal, and petroleum. Each state uses a different mix of energy sources to make electricity, and therefore carbon emissions vary by region across the country. The EIA publishes annual updates on carbon emissions made by power plants within each state. I used those numbers to estimate our carbon footprint (e.g.: an average of 0.446 lbs of CO2 per kWh was released by power plants in California in 2019). Long story short, charging our Model 3 to drive 42,500 miles released 5,445 lbs of CO2.

Since each gallon of gas releases 19.6 lbs of CO2, 5445 lbs of CO2 is the equivalent of burning 278 gallons of gas (5,445 lbs ÷ 19.6 lbs/gallon = 278 gallons) to drive 42,500 miles. So for the emissions comparison, 5,445 lbs of CO2 is the amount of carbon emissions you’d get from driving a hypothetical gas-burning car that gets 152 MPG (42,500 miles ÷ 278 gallons = 152 MPG). Again, driving electric is much more efficient and produces fewer emissions. Our carbon footprint is not zero, but 5,500 lbs of CO2 is a big improvement over 15,700 lbs from a Prius, and a huge improvement over 33,300 pounds from a 25 MPG car. Right now every means of cutting emissions helps.

Driving Electric Reduced Our Carbon Footprint

Conclusion? Driving electric made an immediate and meaningful reduction in our family’s transportation carbon footprint. The 300+ mile range of our car combined with a nationwide rapid charging network allowed us to travel to all the places we wanted to go without compromise.

IMG_6838.jpg


Methods

Energy Use: My calculations for energy use factor in: 1) Where we charged (Home vs. Supercharger); 2) Home Level 2 charging efficiency assumed to be 85%; 3) Supercharging efficiency assumed to be 92%; and 4) Estimate of energy used by BMS to maintain battery pack temperature and for Sentry Mode while car was parked.

Carbon Emissions: My estimate for carbon emissions from our EV were based on data published by the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) on pounds of carbon emissions per MWh of electricity generated each year in each state. Calculations factor in: 1) Total kWh sent to the car; 2) Year; and 3) Emissions in states where we charged our car. The EIA is a division of the U.S. Department of Energy. From their website: “EIA collects, analyzes, and disseminates independent and impartial energy information to promote sound policymaking, efficient markets, and public understanding of energy and its interaction with the economy and the environment.“

Gas Emissions: Calculations for carbon emissions from driving a gas-powered car are based on: 1) on number of miles driven; 2) number of gallons of gas required to drive 42,500 miles in a 25 MPG car (42,500 ÷ 25 = 1700 gallons), or a 53 MPG Prius (42,500 ÷ 53 = 802 gallons); and 3) 19.6 lbs of CO2 released from burning each gallon of gas.

EmissionsCalc5.jpg
Excel screen cap of Carbon Emission calculations.

This guest post from Steve Noctor originally appeared on his blog It’s Electric.
 
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hmm, I think 130 MPGe is based on wall outlet readout. That means when Tesla show you 8000KwH used, it means 8000KwH were sent to Tesla. Right?
I believe the number reported by the Tesla is only what was added to the battery pack, so it doesn't include charging losses (and I don't think it includes using shore power while connected and using HVAC or other things).
 

snoltor

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hmm, I think 130 MPGe is based on wall outlet readout. That means when Tesla show you 8000KwH used, it means 8000KwH were sent to Tesla. Right?
Estimates based on 'from the wall' - which differs for home and supercharging. As described above home level 2 charging is assumed to be 85% efficient - so for every 85 kWh stored in the pack, 100 were sent from the wall. Supercharging assumed to be 92% efficient - for every 92 kWh stored in the pack during supercharging, 100 kWh were sent to the supercharger. And as mentioned above the 8400 kWh the car reports using does not include power used by the car while parked, which I estimated at 1 kWh per day. So taking into account charging efficiencies, and BMS and Sentry mode power use while parked I estimate 11,100 kWh were sent to the car. So while the car reported using 8400 kWh I estimated that 11,100 kWh were sent to the car. Final efficiency is based on the 11,100 kWh that I estimate were sent to the car during charging.
 

snoltor

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Nice write up! How are you getting 198 wh/mile? I rarely see below 300 in my P3D and that's if I'm driving very conservatively making an effort to see how efficient I can get it. Generally I'm in the 325-350 range.
Couple things, mainly driving in the right hand lane. RWD with 18" wheels and aero covers help a little, but mainly me driving in the right hand lane.
 

snoltor

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Is most of your driving around town or highway?
For daily life my work commute is a little more than 75% highway, weekends usually driving around town. Overall total miles probably 70% highway. I don't use chill mode, it's really just me driving slow - when possible I don't go much over the speed limit but I am always careful not to hold up traffic, especially trucks. Also letting regen capture as much as possible when slowing. On road trips that are all highway I'm about 220. My driving speed is definitely on one end of the normal curve, story for another time.
 

Andy7

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For daily life my work commute is a little more than 75% highway, weekends usually driving around town. Overall total miles probably 70% highway. I don't use chill mode, it's really just me driving slow - when possible I don't go much over the speed limit but I am always careful not to hold up traffic, especially trucks. Also letting regen capture as much as possible when slowing. On road trips that are all highway I'm about 220. My driving speed is definitely on one end of the normal curve, story for another time.
I don't think an explanation or apology is needed for driving at or just above the speed limit! I try to be at or below the limit on local roads and tend to go 5-7 mph over a 65 mph limit (and get passed all the time!).
 

dbibby

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Part 3 of my three-year review covers: Energy Use and Carbon Emissions from driving 42,500 miles in our Model 3. Links to Parts 1-4 of the review are at the bottom.

We drove 42,500 miles in the first three years. I calculated how many kWh of electricity were sent to my car to charge the battery pack, and from that I estimated carbon emissions from producing the electricity.

3YearsMileage3-300x139.jpg


I don’t have a separate meter to record energy use by my home charging station so I started with the amount of energy that the car reported using, and worked back from there. I took into account charging inefficiencies and estimated energy use by BMS and Sentry Mode – the UI currently reports energy use while driving. This is a back of the envelope estimate so keep in mind that YMMV.

Energy Use

11,100 kWh of electricity were used to charge my car over 3 years.

Here’s how I came up with that number: My car reported using 8429 kWh from the battery pack while driving. After taking into account efficiency of home Level 2 charging (I assume 85%), how many kWh I got from Superchargers (1428), and efficiency of Supercharging (I assume 92%), we get to 9789 kWh. I estimate an additional 1 kWh per day for BMS and Sentry Mode (+ 85% efficiency) = 1290 kWh. That totals 11,079 kWh – rounding up to 11,100 kWh. So 11,100 kWh to drive 42,500 miles. This gives us an efficiency from the wall of about:

3.8 miles per kWh261 Wh per mile16 kWh per 100 km.

Emissions

I estimate that our carbon emissions from three years of driving the Model 3 were 5,445 lbs of CO2 (See Methods and spread sheet at bottom for details). That’s just 17% of the emissions from driving the same distance in a 25 MPG car, and 34% of the emissions from a 2010 Prius. Driving an electric car produced an immediate and large reduction in our carbon footprint.

Carbon-Footprint-for-text6.jpg


Comparing Gas and Electric Vehicles

There are two ways I compare the efficiency of gas and electric cars. One considers the kWh energy equivalent in a gallon of gas to compare the energy required to drive XX miles in gas-powered or electric cars. The second way is to compare emissions from driving electric versus gas.

Energy Equivalent Comparison: How does using 11,100 kWh to drive 42,500 miles compare to how much gasoline we would have used? One gallon of gas has the equivalent energy of 33.7 kWh of electricity. Using this approach, 11,100 kWh of electricity is the equivalent to the energy in 330 gallons of gas (11,100 kWh ÷ 33.7 kWh/gallon = 330 gallons). So 330 gallons of gas to drive 42,500 miles is like driving a car that gets 128 MPG. Electric cars are much more efficient than gas-powered cars and the reasons are straightforward: a lot of the energy released by burning gas is lost to heat and that sizable heat loss doesn’t happen with electric motors. Case in point: check out the snow on the hood of my electric car after driving 120 miles through a snow storm.

no-melt.jpg
Snow on the hood of my car after driving through a heavy snow storm – no gas furnace throwing away heat under the hood.

Emissions Comparison: Energy comparisons are interesting, but carbon emissions are key. Burning one gallon of gas releases 19.6 lbs of CO2 pretty much no matter where you burn it. Seasonal variations in gas additives that are required in some regions of the U.S. can have a small effect on GHG. In contrast, electricity is made from a variety of sources including renewables like hydroelectric, geothermal, wind, and solar, or from nuclear fission, or by burning natural gas, coal, and petroleum. Each state uses a different mix of energy sources to make electricity, and therefore carbon emissions vary by region across the country. The EIA publishes annual updates on carbon emissions made by power plants within each state. I used those numbers to estimate our carbon footprint (e.g.: an average of 0.446 lbs of CO2 per kWh was released by power plants in California in 2019). Long story short, charging our Model 3 to drive 42,500 miles released 5,445 lbs of CO2.

Since each gallon of gas releases 19.6 lbs of CO2, 5445 lbs of CO2 is the equivalent of burning 278 gallons of gas (5,445 lbs ÷ 19.6 lbs/gallon = 278 gallons) to drive 42,500 miles. So for the emissions comparison, 5,445 lbs of CO2 is the amount of carbon emissions you’d get from driving a hypothetical gas-burning car that gets 152 MPG (42,500 miles ÷ 278 gallons = 152 MPG). Again, driving electric is much more efficient and produces fewer emissions. Our carbon footprint is not zero, but 5,500 lbs of CO2 is a big improvement over 15,700 lbs from a Prius, and a huge improvement over 33,300 pounds from a 25 MPG car. Right now every means of cutting emissions helps.

Driving Electric Reduced Our Carbon Footprint

Conclusion? Driving electric made an immediate and meaningful reduction in our family’s transportation carbon footprint. The 300+ mile range of our car combined with a nationwide rapid charging network allowed us to travel to all the places we wanted to go without compromise.

IMG_6838.jpg


Methods

Energy Use: My calculations for energy use factor in: 1) Where we charged (Home vs. Supercharger); 2) Home Level 2 charging efficiency assumed to be 85%; 3) Supercharging efficiency assumed to be 92%; and 4) Estimate of energy used by BMS to maintain battery pack temperature and for Sentry Mode while car was parked.

Carbon Emissions: My estimate for carbon emissions from our EV were based on data published by the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) on pounds of carbon emissions per MWh of electricity generated each year in each state. Calculations factor in: 1) Total kWh sent to the car; 2) Year; and 3) Emissions in states where we charged our car. The EIA is a division of the U.S. Department of Energy. From their website: “EIA collects, analyzes, and disseminates independent and impartial energy information to promote sound policymaking, efficient markets, and public understanding of energy and its interaction with the economy and the environment.“

Gas Emissions: Calculations for carbon emissions from driving a gas-powered car are based on: 1) on number of miles driven; 2) number of gallons of gas required to drive 42,500 miles in a 25 MPG car (42,500 ÷ 25 = 1700 gallons), or a 53 MPG Prius (42,500 ÷ 53 = 802 gallons); and 3) 19.6 lbs of CO2 released from burning each gallon of gas.

EmissionsCalc5.jpg
Excel screen cap of Carbon Emission calculations.

This guest post from Steve Noctor originally appeared on his blog It’s Electric.
Thanks Steve for this (and the earlier) posts. Just had my Model 3 for a week so it's encouraging to know that I'll reduce my CO2 footprint so dramatically.

There is one other key benefit I see from switching from gas to electric and that is the reduction in CO2 by switching to a fuel which that uses less CO2 to produce in the first place. Extracting fuel from the ground and delivering it to filling stations around the world consumes a lot of CO2 whereas electricity can be be produced in many different ways and, overtime, the method with the least CO2 footprint hopefully will be adopted. I think this is often overlooked when people are comparing gas to EVs in terms of CO2 footprint.

That said, I have not found any study (as yet) which properly examines the CO2 consumption of different forms of energy production to validate this view. How does the cost of opening a oil drilling site compare to a nuclear power station or solar energy farm in terms of CO2? Has anyone got any references to such studies?
 

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