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BEEZR

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Feb 19, 2016
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The CPO I just put a deposit on (60 kWh, Blue with Black Nappa & Piano Black interior, Pano Roof, Tech, Sound and Air Suspension, 38.5k mi for $45.9k) has a clean Carfax, but no activity on the Carfax since May of 2013. Is that normal for a Tesla? I asked my advisor, he stated that he's seen that before, and "nothing in his notes" indicates a prior accident. Should I be concerned? The car is out of state so I can't take a look at it.

That's a good deal for that car.

I've seen cars of different makes with little to no history in the Carfax, other than the recurring registration at DMV. And then I see some where there's an entry from Big-O tires with mileage... Any accident that is reported to DMV should appear, but I imagine it's shop by shop if any other kind of service is reported.

Also, you can always go take a look at the car -- for the price of a round-trip flight... Might be worth the few hundred bucks for peace of mind if you're so inclined...
 

BEEZR

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Interesting you said this because I did notice the ones that were about $4-5k less all had prior accidents but not enough for them to not CPO them.

How big of a list did you see of these cars? Did you get it in email or have to go into the Tesla store to check it out?
 

Fusion

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How big of a list did you see of these cars? Did you get it in email or have to go into the Tesla store to check it out?

I was working with a CPO specialist. You tell them what options you want and they keep sending you lists with your specs. I was offered about 4-6 cars every other week or so. They are from all over and will tell you how much transport will cost from another state.
 
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Fusion

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Don't count on it. I've owned 2 vehicles with significant accident damage that was paid for by insurance, and both have clean Carfaxes.

I would second this. One model they showed me had a CLEAN Carfax but the CPO advisor came back and told me there was an accident and they wanted to disclose it.
 
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One of the Inventory cars that I was offered had been in a reasonably sized accident ( more than $10K damage). The Owner Advisor that I was working with let me know about it though (really open and clear about it which I appreciated), and I decided not to proceed. Was a bit of a surprise though, I sort of expected all inventory cars to be 'as new'. They are, effectively, used even though we get the tax credit.

Edit: forgot to mention that there were no records for the VIN in question on Carfax. I don't think that there are any Carfax records for Inventory cars as they are not themselves registered.
 
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Az_Rael

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One of the Inventory cars that I was offered had been in a reasonably sized accident ( more than $10K damage). The Owner Advisor that I was working with let me know about it though, and I decided not to proceed. Was a bit of a shocker really though, I sort of expected all inventory cars to be 'as new'.

THAT is crazy. I would also expect the inventory cars to be essentially new.

I am OK with CPO cars that were in accidents as long as Tesla is certifying them with the CPO warranty. I would assume the car would have a lower price to reflect the accident history. But I would not be OK with buying an inventory car with an accident record. Yikes
 
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Cyclone

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THAT is crazy. I would also expect the inventory cars to be essentially new.

I am OK with CPO cars that were in accidents as long as Tesla is certifying them with the CPO warranty. I would assume the car would have a lower price to reflect the accident history. But I would not be OK with buying an inventory car with an accident record. Yikes

Until you run into scenarios like mine where the car had some repaint due to small damage (we suspect just a scratch) and when the paint failed, Tesla said it was my problem and I had to pay out of my pocket for the car to painted again. They said the "shoddy" work of the prior owner would not be their responsibility. They also wouldn't contact the prior owner on my behalf to see if they involved a shop that would cover a "warranty" repair of the paint (many shops will provide a lifetime warranty on their workmanship).
 

MountainHigh

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Good thing I haven't been holding my breath waiting for the flood of CPOs. Congrats to those who've been able to find one.
What I don't understand about all the inventory cars vs CPOs is that the inventory should be the ones used for loaners, right? Isn't this what Elon Musk stated when he was creating the "world's best service"?

Creating the World’s Best Service and Warranty Program

"Nor will this eventually become an aging fleet of overused cars. The Model S loaners will be available for immediate purchase
at a price that is lower by $1 per mile driven. If you like the service loaner more than your other car, we will happily trade in your
Model S and you may keep the loaner. This ensures that the service fleet is constantly refreshed and gives customers the best
optionality."
 

HankLloydRight

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Yes, but that was years ago, before "reality" sunk in.

Elon envisioned a fleet of highly optioned loaners that would be sold/traded-up from/to existing owners. But it's expensive to make a lot of highly optioned cars that never really sell... compared to a huge fleet of trade-ins (CPOs) that they can also use as loaners to replace the "Inventory" cars and not take a huge hit on unsold CPO inventory depreciation. So they took all the sitting, depreciating CPO inventory and put them into loaner service instead.
 
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Cyclone

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That was also said when trading up was giving you a roughly equivalent car with different options, such as pano, air, larger battery, P vs. S. So the impression was nice and likely did lead to some upgrades, it wouldn't be expected that a majority of owners would trade up to their loaner. However, one dual motor and autopilot came onto the seen, there were three whole new reason to upgrade - capability, performance, and convenience, plus the same people who thought about changing options (premium sound vs. standard for instance). So that really opened the "floodgates" to people getting second Teslas and loaded the company fleet up with cars that were "less" desirable that buying new. It made sense that 18 months later these get repurposed as loaners and save funds.
 

Fusion

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For the people who got delivery how was the condition of the wheels? The wheels on mine look pretty curbed from the pictures but I haven't gotten delivery yet.
 

SmartElectric

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The wheels on our CPO 2013 S85 were in great shape. Tesla put new tires on them prior to delivery last June. Plus new brakes and tail lights (common problem with the early VIN of our car). Very pleased with Tesla prep of our car.
 

Cyclone

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For the people who got delivery how was the condition of the wheels? The wheels on mine look pretty curbed from the pictures but I haven't gotten delivery yet.

My wheels were great, but my brake rotor covers covered in rust (they worked fine, but looked bad). At first Tesla wouldn't do anything, but I escalated and they eventually replaced the rotors (just a derust cleaning would have been fine with me though). A year later now and they still look new.
 

Zaphod

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No personal experience regarding the wheels, but recall hearing varying levels of condition on the wheels. Seems like some people had some curb damage and service center would replace, others service center wouldn't. I guess it can't hurt to bring it up with your service center and see what they say.
 

playoutside

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I stopped by the Atlanta store today and they showed me the hidden CPO inventory.

The cheapest car was a 2012 S85 with 51K miles and pretty much every option (except performance package). It was priced at $49K.

Funny thing was the cheapest "used" (as in pre-owned but non-CPO) had I believe 79K and was ~$55K.

The lowest price Model S with auto pilot was over $90K.
 

wdolson

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I've been watching Model Ss on Ebay and while P85D and P90Ds are coming up frequently, the 85Ds and 90Ds are rare and when they do come up, they are around 90% the original price.
 

Souljah

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Apr 20, 2016
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The midwest rep (which includes Texas, as offensive as that is to many Texans) is Brent Seavey ([email protected]). The cars he sent as available ranged in price from $40 to $65.

Thanks for the info...pulled the trigger and locked mine in.

2013 P85+ for 61k

Silver with gray leather
Pano roof
Active air
Sounds studio
Performance plus package

Other than being a little hard to reach Brent was great to deal with.
 
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tpedwards

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2013 P85+ for 61k

How many miles, if I may ask?

I have been talking to Ben, but I am looking for P85/+ with high miles, CPO and rear-facing seats which may take a while to find.
 

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