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Tesla Model Y Long Range Only Hits 220 miles in Real World Test

Discussion in 'Model Y' started by Nuclear Fusion, Feb 28, 2021.

  1. Nuclear Fusion

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    VW ID.4 Goes 190 Miles In Car & Driver Highway Test, Tesla Model Y Hits 220

     
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  2. everydaychris

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    This does not bode well for me and my road trip from OC to oregon in June
     
  3. Midnightsun

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    I keep saying the Y sucks in terms of actual miles achieved on the highway and this once again confirms this. The real life situation is 30% less than advertised! Still love the car though.
     
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  4. Uncle Paul

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    Some owners have posted they are able to achieve EPA estimates. Some even do better, but more posts claim they do worse. Could it have anything to do with the way the cars are driven?
     
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  5. Nuclear Fusion

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    It’s a standardised test by them:

     
  6. Zythryn

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    Our Y meets the efficiency stats. However. my driving is closer to the EPA’s test than the ‘real world’ tests C&D used.
    I strongly suspect that the Y is much more sensitive to changes from the EPA tests than the 3 is.
     
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    #7 Uncle Paul, Feb 28, 2021
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    This is what I mean. If you drive 75 mph you will not achieve EPA rated range.

    Believe EPA testing never goes over 55 mph.

    In addition, they measured the kWh needed to fill the battery to determine range. To get true range you need to measure the total kWh used. Measuring the amount needed to fill introduces a variable as to the efficiency of the charging system. It takes more than 1kWh of juice to get 1 kWh out due to the inefficiencies of charging. Likewise it takes more than 100kWh of electricity to fully charge a 100kWh battery from full to empty.

    Same with refining crude oil. It takes more than one barrel of crude oil to get one barrel of refined products. Some loss is expected within the process. Also far less than one barrel of gasoline can be extracted from barrel of crude.

    If you drive the way EPA test, usually you will match the EPA rated range. If you drive way faster...you will get way less.

    Critics of Tesla tend to hang on reports like these to somehow try to make the case that Tesla does not do as well as expected. There is a strong bias in testing like this.

    In my X, if I drive a typical route to work, I can easily get EPA rated range. When I am driving 80 mph down the highway it is not unusual for that range to drop. Same thing happens when I am towing something.

    These larger frontal areas of SUVs tend to use more juice at higher speed than do the smaller EVs like Model 3.
     
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  8. RoBoRaT

    RoBoRaT Zero Farts Given!

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    @Nuclear Fusion, what is your "real world" experience with a Tesla?

    My MYP (March 2020 build) averages 290 wh/mile @ 7K miles here in SoCal mostly freeway driving 75-80 mph.

    That translates to 75,000 W battery/290 wh/mile = 258 miles.

    My November 2018 build M3 LR AWD ave 273 wh/mile at 85K miles, mostly freeway driving 75-80 mph in SoCal.

    75kW/273 wh/mile = 274 miles.

    YMMV, in each of our real world.

    PS: I know I can match rated range in the 3 or Y if I drive slower than usual - somewhere around 60-70 mph.
     
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  9. qdeathstar

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    I don’t feel like mine is that bad. I get maybe 250-280 miles. It’s winter so right now it’s closer to 250...
     
  10. DanDi58

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    Sigh. Here we go again.
     
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  11. origingalatic

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    Make sense, I always wonder with Elon believes 250 miles is bare minimum. Make sense they pulled MY SR
     
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  12. Eric9610

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    So on my last several trips with 95% highway driving at 75-80mph I am seeing 250-260miles on a full charge. This is the reason I will be going to a tri motor CT with the 500+ range rating.
     
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    I wonder what “heavy” wind is to them. For an electric car even a 10 mph wind could be considerably heavier energy usage. Consider driving 85 mph vs 75; I would consider 220 miles at 85 mph pretty good in the Y....
     
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    just sold my M3 SR+ for a MY SR, I hope I can make the drive back to NY from Florida....
     
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    Battery capacity and energy are measured in watt-hours (Wh) or kilowatt-hours (kWh). 75,000 W battery and 75 kW (referring to a battery) make no sense in this context.
     
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    My bad, please add h to my notations.
     
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    It’s interesting to note that they must also have tested a 2021 Model Y since they’re mentioning it has 80+ kWh... I was pretty sure the 2020s were like 72-75kWh.
     
  18. mac9899

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    It really would have been interesting if they had released the RWLR Y version.
    Numbers would be interesting to have been seen.

    I get 280ish range on mine 290WH/Miles is about right - 3/2020 MYPUP
     
  19. mac9899

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    75 + 2 on "reserve"

    Yes, regarding the "new" pack, will be interesting to see what improvements bring to these numbers.
     
  20. Koolio46

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    Similar here with a LR with 20” inductions..but my winter range can be as low as 220. This is driving at 75-80mph on the highway. In the city, I’m averaging around 275 wh/mi in the Boston area in winter.
     
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