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Tesla Motors and Ohio - SB 137, SB 260 - Owners/Advocates Call to Action

Discussion in 'Tesla Motors' started by brandonmbeard, Dec 2, 2013.

  1. brandonmbeard

    brandonmbeard Member

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    Did anyone else in Ohio receive this email from Tesla? Is anyone going to there to show support?

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    Am I an idiot or am I missing how SB 137 affects Tesla Motors?

    SB 137 Full Text
     
  2. JakeP

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    I am over here in PA and didn't get the email, but am a former OH resident, and would definitely write letters if needed. Agreed that SB 137 does not look applicable...I would guess that section 4517 would be where Tesla would be targeted.

    Lawriter - ORC

    Perhaps you can get clarification/confirmation from Tesla on this?
     
  3. brandonmbeard

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    I have replied back to the email asking for clarification on which sections/parts affect them directly as I would love to call that out to the Governor. We shall see what they say.
     
  4. PokerBroker

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    THIS IS HUGE!!!

    Here is an amendment the Dealer lobby is trying to sneak into this otherwise neutral bill!!!

    4517.12 Denial of license as motor vehicle dealer, motor vehicle leasing dealer, manufactured home broker, or motor vehicle auction owner.
    (A) The registrar of motor vehicles shall deny the application of any person for a license as a motor vehicle dealer, motor vehicle leasing dealer, or motor vehicle auction owner and refuse to issue the license if the registrar finds that the applicant:
    (1) Has made any false statement of a material fact in the application;
    (2) Has not complied with sections 4517.01 to 4517.45 of the Revised Code;
    (3) Is of bad business repute or has habitually defaulted on financial obligations;
    (4) Is engaged or will engage in the business of selling at retail any new motor vehicles without having written authority from the manufacturer or distributor thereof to sell new motor vehicles and to perform repairs under the terms of the manufacturer's or distributor's new motor vehicle warranty, except as provided in division (C) of this section and except that a person who assembles or installs special equipment or accessories for handicapped persons, as defined in section 4503.44 of the Revised Code, upon a motor vehicle chassis supplied by a manufacturer or distributor shall not be denied a license pursuant to division (A)(4) of this section;
    (5) Has been guilty of a fraudulent act in connection with selling or otherwise dealing in, or leasing, motor vehicles, or in connection with brokering manufactured homes;
    (6) Has entered into or is about to enter into a contract or agreement with a manufacturer or distributor of motor vehicles that is contrary to sections 4517.01 to 4517.45 of the Revised Code;
    (7) Is insolvent;
    (8) Is of insufficient responsibility to ensure the prompt payment of any final judgments that might reasonably be entered against the applicant because of the transaction of business as a motor vehicle dealer, motor vehicle leasing dealer, or motor vehicle auction owner during the period of the license applied for, or has failed to satisfy any such judgment;
    (9) Has no established place of business that, where applicable, is used or will be used for the purpose of selling, displaying, offering for sale, dealing in, or leasing motor vehicles at the location for which application is made;
    (10) Has, less than twelve months prior to making application, been denied a motor vehicle dealer's, motor vehicle leasing dealer's, or motor vehicle auction owner's license, or has any such license revoked.
    (11) Is a manufacturer or a subsidiary, parent, or affiliated entity of a manufacturer. applying for a license to sell or lease new or used vehicles at retail. Nothing in this division shall prohibit a manufacturer from disposing of vehicles at wholesale at the termination of a consumer lease through a motor vehicle auction. This division shall not serve as a basis for termination, revocation, or non-renewal of a license granted prior to the effective date of this provision.
    (B) If the applicant is a corporation or partnership, the registrar may refuse to issue a license if any officer, director, or partner of the applicant has been guilty of any act or omission that would be cause for refusing or revoking a license issued to such officer, director, or partner as an individual. The registrar's finding may be based upon facts contained in the application or upon any other information the registrar may have. Immediately upon denying an application for any of the reasons in this section, the registrar shall enter a final order together with the registrar's findings and certify the same to the motor vehicle dealers' and salespersons' licensing board.
    (C) Notwithstanding division (A)(4) of this section, the registrar shall not deny the application of any person and refuse to issue a license if the registrar finds that the applicant is engaged or will engage in the business of selling at retail any new motor vehicles and demonstrates all of the following in the form prescribed by the registrar:
    (1) That the applicant has posted a bond, surety, or certificate of deposit with the registrar in an amount not less than one hundred thousand dollars for the protection and benefit of the applicant's customers except that a new motor vehicle dealer who is not exclusively engaged in the business of selling remanufactured vehicles shall not be required to post the bond, surety, or certificate of deposit otherwise required by division (C)(1) of this section;
    (2)
    That, at the time of the sale of the vehicle, each customer of the applicant will be furnished with a warranty issued by the remanufacturer for a term of at least one year;
    (3) That the applicant provides and maintains at the applicant's location and place of business a permanent facility with all of the following:
    (a) A showroom with space, under roof, for the display of at least one new motor vehicle;
    (b) A service and parts facility for remanufactured vehicles;
    (c) Full-time service and parts personnel with the proper training and technical expertise to service the remanufactured vehicles sold by the applicant.
     
  5. FatSal

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    I contacted all my representatives today. How ridiculous.

    Two other points I found really interesting:
    1. There are only 250 Tesla Owners in Ohio so far. Wow this seems low but explains the reaction my car receives.
    2. They intend on starting multiple supercharger sites in Ohio by the end of the year!
     
  6. brandonmbeard

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    Yes, I have contacted my representatives as well.

    Nice to know I'm one of 250!
     
  7. PokerBroker

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    I will be attending the hearing tomorrow and will report back. I believe they are accepting public statements.
     
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    #9 hockeythug, Dec 3, 2013
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    Tesla Faces Off Against Car Dealers In Another State: Ohio - Hearing Today

    Link and full story:

    http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1088850_tesla-faces-off-against-car-dealers-in-another-state-ohio
     
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    Anyone have email contacts for the legislators there? Time to chime in.
     
  11. doug

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    When is the hearing? Green Car Reports says "this afternoon" but the letter from Tesla says December 4th, which is tomorrow.
     
  12. PokerBroker

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    Tesla's letter is incorrect, the hearing was moved up without notification.
     
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    Shenanigans. They're trying to get it through before Tesla can respond.
     
  15. JST

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    Here's what I told the governor:

    Governor Kasich--


    I understand the Ohio legislature is considering a bill to ban direct manufacturer sale of automobiles to the public.


    This bill, which seems aimed directly at Tesla Motors, is a classic example of special-interest protectionism run amok. Tesla represents the most exciting innovation in the automotive space in decades. It has shown that American innovation still can lead the world, and it is on track to bring jobs and economic development to Ohio and throughout the country.


    Moreover, my family members in Ohio are all extremely excited about the environmental benefits that Tesla provides.


    I hope that if this bill passes, your principled support for open markets and competition will lead you to veto it.
     
  16. stopcrazypp

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    Someone on autobloggreen said the bill was passed through a rushed session. So the only chance right now may be to try to get a governor veto.

    Of course just in case that source is unreliable, writing to legislators still matters.
     
  17. hockeythug

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    unsure if that guy is talking about the bill or the amendment getting passed 32-0.
     
  18. stopcrazypp

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    Yeah, he might be talking about the bill (which was passed 32-0) and not the amendment (maybe still not passed).

    I guess it's safest to write to both.
     
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    Tesla Motors and Ohio - SB 137 - Owners/Advocates Call to Action

    Ohio strikes down the amendment to SB137 which would limit Tesla's direct sales and then passes the unamended bill 12-0.
     

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