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Microterf

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Sep 18, 2020
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SAE levels 2-5 are all about liability. I'm not sure why that is hard to comprehend. It has zero to do with functionality, although the assumption would generally be that they would coincide as systems increase.

Level 2 means 2 driver assists features working together. This is steering and braking/acceleration. Guess what, that is 100% of what we do when we are driving.

Even if FSD beta is 99.99999% reliable everywhere, it's level 2 if we have the liability. (We are the driver) if Elon says they'll take responsibility in certain situations, but we have to be ready to take over in certain situations, then it becomes level 3. If we can engage the system in certain scenarios and not worry about paying attention, then it becomes level 4. If we never have to pay attention and can engage it anywhere a car would be driven, then it's Level 5.

SAE levels 2-5 have nothing to do with functionality, it's all about liability.
 

Microterf

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Sep 18, 2020
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My question on the FSD trial for new customers is that if you start the trial right away before "FSD Beta" is released, it's kind of pointless, but if you allow them as part of the "FSD Beta" program, then you'll have all of us that paid for FSD pissed off. I haven't seen any guidance on how they are rolling this out yet, but I can see this being messy.
 

john94si

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Dec 16, 2020
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I picked up a new 3 yesterday without fsd. And they stated in 48 hours. Well this am it is on now.
If I choose navigation using fsd is it enabled when the button is blue or grey?
 

JulienW

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I picked up a new 3 yesterday without fsd. And they stated in 48 hours. Well this am it is on now.
If I choose navigation using fsd is it enabled when the button is blue or grey?

Steering Wheel Icon:
Gray=Ready
Blue=AP in control

Also you NEED to read the manual. You can go to page 84 to learn about AP.
 

john94si

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Dec 16, 2020
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Steering Wheel Icon:
Gray=Ready
Blue=AP in control

Also you NEED to read the manual. You can go to page 84 to learn about AP.
Thanks but the question is when I am on navigation should the button be blue or grey if under fsd?
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Microterf

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Sep 18, 2020
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Ohio
Blue, but you'll know if its working because it will have a single centered line in the middle of the car instead if the 2 lines on the edges of the car
 
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