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Tesla OS 8 Update
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Under current transport legislation which is stone-aged, the approval is not automatic. Tesla HK should apply to TD for approval of 8.0. No doubt, TD is highly bureaucratic and red tape, the matter also depends on how Tesla HK diligently follow up with TD. TD is definitely to be blamed but Tesla HK's effort in pushing through should not be discounted.
TD is simply followed the current aged legislation. Hence, individual application for exemption such as 8.0 is therefore required. I don't want to say good words to TD but this is a matter of facts in legislation. Through various battles with TD in the past, I feel they did move a bit but at turtle speed (insane mode is not applied to TD).
To reiterate, Tesla HK's effort in pushing through all new version should not be discounted.
TD is simply followed the current aged legislation. Hence, individual application for exemption such as 8.0 is therefore required. I don't want to say good words to TD but this is a matter of facts in legislation. Through various battles with TD in the past, I feel they did move a bit but at turtle speed (insane mode is not applied to TD).
To reiterate, Tesla HK's effort in pushing through all new version should not be discounted.
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The legislation is not sufficient to cover this situation. The real reason is public service liability and the backwardness you get with non elected government that answers to no one.
There is no reason why HK can't copy British law and practice and automatically adopt what is adopted in the U.K. in respect of motor vehicle law.
There is no reason why HK can't copy British law and practice and automatically adopt what is adopted in the U.K. in respect of motor vehicle law.
I'm not so certain about the legislative requirement for pre-approval.
Certainly, in the past, not every (if any) software update has required pre-approval. That was just the TD's knee-jerk reaction to the autopilot press stories.
The legislation allows for a type approval process, and so long as the modification (hardware or software) does not affect that type approval (ie; still meets regulations), I don't see anything in the legislation to require pre-approval.
Here is the legislation relevant to modification of a vehicle:
CAP 374 Road Traffic Ordinance s 53 Prohibition of sale, hire etc. of vehicles not complying with regulations
Here are the two guideline documents the government provides:
http://www.td.gov.hk/filemanager/en/content_1178/dondont.pdf
http://www.td.gov.hk/filemanager/en/content_1178/alteration.pdf
As you can see, vehicle software is not mentioned at all. The only way that I can see that software would be involved is if it altered the performance of the vehicle, function of its safety systems (brakes, etc),, or modifies the vehicle in such a way as to violate an ordinance (e.g. adding a video player).
Interestingly, as a private individual I have asked Transport Department for pre-approval of a modification, and they refused - they said it is up to me to ensure the change complies with the legislation (which is absurd because no modern vehicle on the road today complies with the section 37 vehicle display unit legislation).
Certainly, in the past, not every (if any) software update has required pre-approval. That was just the TD's knee-jerk reaction to the autopilot press stories.
The legislation allows for a type approval process, and so long as the modification (hardware or software) does not affect that type approval (ie; still meets regulations), I don't see anything in the legislation to require pre-approval.
Here is the legislation relevant to modification of a vehicle:
CAP 374 Road Traffic Ordinance s 53 Prohibition of sale, hire etc. of vehicles not complying with regulations
Here are the two guideline documents the government provides:
http://www.td.gov.hk/filemanager/en/content_1178/dondont.pdf
http://www.td.gov.hk/filemanager/en/content_1178/alteration.pdf
As you can see, vehicle software is not mentioned at all. The only way that I can see that software would be involved is if it altered the performance of the vehicle, function of its safety systems (brakes, etc),, or modifies the vehicle in such a way as to violate an ordinance (e.g. adding a video player).
Interestingly, as a private individual I have asked Transport Department for pre-approval of a modification, and they refused - they said it is up to me to ensure the change complies with the legislation (which is absurd because no modern vehicle on the road today complies with the section 37 vehicle display unit legislation).
It does matter. There is no one to answer for their portfolio responsibility to eject. They can be as hopeless as can be, without responsibility to whom they serve.
people fear what they do not understand
if the status quo has been good enough (and has been lining their well enough pockets so far) then why change?
example can be found easily with the tourist-centric focus of the local retail industry.
lx3h
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The usual, when we get v8,0, you'll get it. It's not up to Tesla to know when TD will be done testing
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