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ghostrunner

Member
Oct 31, 2017
107
193
Edmonton
As a fellow dual (exclusive) EV owner (S and X), I'm curious how much solar generation capacity you have, if you're using a Powerwall, and how much charging you plan for the cars each day?

Kev.
We have a 11.5 kw solar system with 2 powerwalls , we charge 1 car a day( since we really only drive 1 a day) , we have allowed 11-21 kw/hr for the cars each day and so far so good. We have been off the grid for over 100 days in a row since getting the powerwalls.
 

DigAdrenaline

Member
Jul 27, 2018
359
335
Canada
We have a 11.5 kw solar system with 2 powerwalls , we charge 1 car a day( since we really only drive 1 a day) , we have allowed 11-21 kw/hr for the cars each day and so far so good. We have been off the grid for over 100 days in a row since getting the powerwalls.

Does Atco (or alternate provider) bill you any fee at all for being connected to the grid, or does Alberta allow you to reduce that to $0 as well? What was the bill to install the powerwalls?

I have so many questions here. :) Sorry. This seems like my obvious next step. Thanks for being patient with me as I ask.
 

int32_t

Tesla Spotter
Nov 21, 2015
626
414
Calgary area, AB, Canada
We have a 11.5 kw solar system with 2 powerwalls , we charge 1 car a day( since we really only drive 1 a day) , we have allowed 11-21 kw/hr for the cars each day and so far so good. We have been off the grid for over 100 days in a row since getting the powerwalls.
Off the grid? In the city? What on Earth?! That is sooo cool! :eek:

Sounds like you have a grid connection if you want it though. How does that work? I bet you have to pay the usual service fees for that, which would ruin the payback time.

That is the dream though! House and car unplugged.


Oh and in other news, there's no need to go to a showroom to see the latest Tesla anymore haha! I saw three Model Ys on the way to/from Edmonton this weekend, and one of them was parked so I got a good look at it.
 
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S'toon

Knows where his towel is
Apr 23, 2015
3,702
3,646
AB
We have a 11.5 kw solar system with 2 powerwalls , we charge 1 car a day( since we really only drive 1 a day) , we have allowed 11-21 kw/hr for the cars each day and so far so good. We have been off the grid for over 100 days in a row since getting the powerwalls.
My dream home is a net-zero home.

I'm keenly interested in the solar capability during winter, during our short days, and possibly snow obscured panels.
 
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bpjod

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Nov 5, 2016
495
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Alberta, Canada
My dream home is a net-zero home.

I'm keenly interested in the solar capability during winter, during our short days, and possibly snow obscured panels.

I'm just outside of Edmonton. My system is roof mounted. Seven (7) South facing 285W panels, twenty one (21) West facing 285W panels. I don't clean my panels in the winter - they stay snow-covered until the snow melts. Here's my average monthly production since Jan 2017:

Jan: 118 kWh
Feb: 88 kWh
Mar: 403 kWh
Apr: 880 kWh
May: 1,180 kWh
Jun: 1,073 kWh
Jul: 1,155 kWh
Aug: 1,047 kWh
Sep: 630 kWh
Oct: 550 kWh
Nov: 197 kWh
Dec: 143 kWh

We are a family of 4 with a Chevy Volt as our local runabout and a Tesla Model 3 since June 2018 as our primary vehicle and air conditioning used sparingly. Our average monthly usage since getting the second electric vehicle is 1,218 kWh (up from 932 kWh/mo when we only had the Volt).

Everyone works or goes to school during the day so we don't benefit much financially from our system. We've spent $5,500 on electrical bills and by my calculations we've saved $2,500 on our electrical bills because of the solar over that time. Then again, we haven't been spending much at the gas pump!

Powerwalls would help, but they're costly and we hope to retire and move in a few years so we're not willing to spend that on this house; hopefully will get them on our next house though.
 
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SMSMD

Active Member
Dec 2, 2015
1,355
635
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
With some reluctance I have decided to sell my 2012 Model S Signature Red P85. I'm the original owner, have enjoyed the car immensely.

It would be nice to see the car stay in Alberta, so I thought I'd post a link to TMC Marketplace here in case anyone was interested.

2012 Model S P85 Signature Red - Edmonton, Alberta
I loved you car. The first Tesla i ever saw.
 
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Zapped

Model S - PURE EV
Aug 8, 2012
1,191
215
Work<->Home
With some reluctance I have decided to sell my 2012 Model S Signature Red P85. I'm the original owner, have enjoyed the car immensely.

It would be nice to see the car stay in Alberta, so I thought I'd post a link to TMC Marketplace here in case anyone was interested.

2012 Model S P85 Signature Red - Edmonton, Alberta
I've added some photos to the Marketplace thread, if anyone is interested. Thx
 

ghostrunner

Member
Oct 31, 2017
107
193
Edmonton
Does Atco (or alternate provider) bill you any fee at all for being connected to the grid, or does Alberta allow you to reduce that to $0 as well? What was the bill to install the powerwalls?

I have so many questions here. :) Sorry. This seems like my obvious next step. Thanks for being patient with me as I ask.
Yes you have to pay a fee to be connected to the grid 0.85/day and yes the offset pays for this. The 2 powerwalls cost approx $20000 but we upgraded our main panel to 200 amps so thats also included. Sorry for the the long wait for a reply was busy with other things
 
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ghostrunner

Member
Oct 31, 2017
107
193
Edmonton
Off the grid? In the city? What on Earth?! That is sooo cool! :eek:

Sounds like you have a grid connection if you want it though. How does that work? I bet you have to pay the usual service fees for that, which would ruin the payback time.

That is the dream though! House and car unplugged.


Oh and in other news, there's no need to go to a showroom to see the latest Tesla anymore haha! I saw three Model Ys on the way to/from Edmonton this weekend, and one of them was parked so I got a good look at it.
Yes we are off the grid and when the solar/powerwalls can not surply enough power the grid will supply the balance of the power. This is done by the powerwalls and inverter so its all automatic . The only service charge we pay is th0.85 cents per day and the exported solar covers that , at the moment we are saving just over $320 per month sot the small service charges don't ruin the payback time.
 

ghostrunner

Member
Oct 31, 2017
107
193
Edmonton
My dream home is a net-zero home.

I'm keenly interested in the solar capability during winter, during our short days, and possibly snow obscured panels.
So far March (thats when we got our powerwalls), April, May, June, and july we have made alot more power than we need need , if this winter is like last winter we will need the grid November, December, January, and February to help supplement our power needs. We have had our solar for over a year and only December and January is the snow on the panels thick enough to keep them from making power. Damn northern Climate
 
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Lon12

Member
Oct 12, 2015
856
1,059
Calgary, AB, Canada
I have 23 West facing panels that I was able to sweep the snow off of last winter. Just really bugs me when we have such nice sunny days but the snow blocks 100% and it is not warm enough to melt off. I know they say the snow only costs you about 3% of your annual production. But I still hate to waste it.
Edmonton study shows snow only mildly affects solar panel productivity

SolarEdge
solar snow.jpg
Dec 267 kWh
Jan 349 kWh
Feb 557 kWh
 
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int32_t

Tesla Spotter
Nov 21, 2015
626
414
Calgary area, AB, Canada
With some reluctance I have decided to sell my 2012 Model S Signature Red P85. I'm the original owner, have enjoyed the car immensely.

It would be nice to see the car stay in Alberta, so I thought I'd post a link to TMC Marketplace here in case anyone was interested.

2012 Model S P85 Signature Red - Edmonton, Alberta

This is the car that started it all! (No offence to Roadster peeps, but it wasn't really mass-produced.) Which Sig number did you have, if you don't mind my asking?

Yes we are off the grid and when the solar/powerwalls can not surply enough power the grid will supply the balance of the power. This is done by the powerwalls and inverter so its all automatic . The only service charge we pay is th0.85 cents per day and the exported solar covers that , at the moment we are saving just over $320 per month sot the small service charges don't ruin the payback time.

According to my electricity bill this month, the fixed distribution charges made up $50 of my $75 bill. How do you get away with $0.85/day (that would be roughly half mine)?

I have 23 West facing panels that I was able to sweep the snow off of last winter. Just really bugs me when we have such nice sunny days but the snow blocks 100% and it is not warm enough to melt off. I know they say the snow only costs you about 3% of your annual production. But I still hate to waste it.
Edmonton study shows snow only mildly affects solar panel productivity

SolarEdge
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Dec 267 kWh
Jan 349 kWh
Feb 557 kWh

I have one 250W module and I too sweep it off in the winter! Haha. Great info about the Edmonton study, 3% is a great number to cite when people are like, "Coal is the only thing that works in Alberta because snow."
 

Zapped

Model S - PURE EV
Aug 8, 2012
1,191
215
Work<->Home
This is the car that started it all! (No offence to Roadster peeps, but it wasn't really mass-produced.) Which Sig number did you have, if you don't mind my asking?
Thanks. I believe there was actually was another one before mine here in Alberta that I remember seeing. Not sure if it’s still on the road. I’m ....2093. I really enjoy the car. You can still have a little “fun” with the 2 wheel drive. Hopefully someone who has never owned a Tesla or likes to collect cars can enjoy the opportunity I had driving a performance Model S
 

ghostrunner

Member
Oct 31, 2017
107
193
Edmonton
This is the car that started it all! (No offence to Roadster peeps, but it wasn't really mass-produced.) Which Sig number did you have, if you don't mind my asking?



According to my electricity bill this month, the fixed distribution charges made up $50 of my $75 bill. How do you get away with $0.85/day (that would be roughly half mine)?



I have one 250W module and I too sweep it off in the winter! Haha. Great info about the Edmonton study, 3% is a great number to cite when people are like, "Coal is the only thing that works in Alberta because snow."


For our electrical retailer all other charges are based on consumption ( remember we don't use power from the grid only export it, for now) and they only have a admin charge of $0.85/day, we have been with the same retailer for awhile now and each time our 4 yr contract is up we squeeze them as much as possiable. The problem now is with the solar panels and powerwalls we no longer pay them as much so I have a feeling they wont be so accommodating when this current contract is up.
 
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ElectricPeril

Member
Feb 3, 2020
10
4
Calgary
Ordered a MY a couple weeks ago and just got the "delivery 4 - 6 weeks" text. Just wondering if anyone else with a MY order in Alberta has a different time frame if they haven't gotten their car already?
 

N.Y.R.

Member
Mar 30, 2019
413
239
Calgary
Anyone else suffering on the wrong end of road rage? Specifically from people driving Trucks? This is Calgary.

In the last 2 weeks, I have had 3 different trucks do some plain ol' BS. One guy deliberately speed up at an intersection doing a left turn while I was also turning left - I slammed the brakes, that is how fast he was going. Ass-**** rolls down his window and starts yelling at me asking me where my stop sign is and to drive the car, not let the car drive me and flips me off. Um, okay.

A few days later, got coal rolled, oddly enough, there were actually two Tesla's at the stop lights so I guess we stood out. Truck was an absolute junker and guy was wearing a safety vest and to be honest, the coal roll was really weak.

Today, some jerk in a truck speed up to cut me off with no turn signal then aggressively sped up anytime I even got close to him to make the truck sound loud including at a stop light.

I get the economy sucks right now, and if you work in the Oil and Gas market, it must be tough, but damn, the road rage is really getting to me.
 

Lon12

Member
Oct 12, 2015
856
1,059
Calgary, AB, Canada
Anyone else suffering on the wrong end of road rage? Specifically from people driving Trucks? This is Calgary.

In the last 2 weeks, I have had 3 different trucks do some plain ol' BS. One guy deliberately speed up at an intersection doing a left turn while I was also turning left - I slammed the brakes, that is how fast he was going. Ass-**** rolls down his window and starts yelling at me asking me where my stop sign is and to drive the car, not let the car drive me and flips me off. Um, okay.

A few days later, got coal rolled, oddly enough, there were actually two Tesla's at the stop lights so I guess we stood out. Truck was an absolute junker and guy was wearing a safety vest and to be honest, the coal roll was really weak.

Today, some jerk in a truck speed up to cut me off with no turn signal then aggressively sped up anytime I even got close to him to make the truck sound loud including at a stop light.

I get the economy sucks right now, and if you work in the Oil and Gas market, it must be tough, but damn, the road rage is really getting to me.
Happens all the time. :rolleyes:
Mostly trucks.
Last year had a bicyclist as well. You can watch the dash cam:
We have rooftop solar so the "zero emission" label on the back of Leaf is actually a thing. But he didn't bother to ask.....
 

Porfiry

Member
Sep 1, 2015
124
95
AB
Anyone else suffering on the wrong end of road rage? Specifically from people driving Trucks? This is Calgary.

Absolutely, but I don’t even drive a Tesla. Calgary drivers were bad to start but since COVID things have really gone downhill. No one has any patience, even though they’ve got nowhere to go.
 

Arctic_White

Member
Oct 28, 2019
140
87
Edmonton, AB
Yes we are off the grid and when the solar/powerwalls can not surply enough power the grid will supply the balance of the power. This is done by the powerwalls and inverter so its all automatic . The only service charge we pay is th0.85 cents per day and the exported solar covers that , at the moment we are saving just over $320 per month sot the small service charges don't ruin the payback time.

$320 per month is significant savings, but what's your payback period?

I was quoted over $35K to install the solar panels. Add $20K for 2x powerwalls and we're at over $55K. Our average monthly electricity bill is less than $300 per month so quick math suggests that our payback period would be 15+ years assuming electricity costs stay roughly the same.
 

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