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Tesla P85D at Consumer Reports breaks . . . Consumer Reports's rating system.

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  1. Room_A113

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    #1 Room_A113, Aug 27, 2015
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    Consumer Reports finally finished their testing of their P85D, and it would have rated 103 on a scale of 1-100.


    Excerpt: "In rating it, however, we faced a quandary: The Tesla initially scored 103 in the Consumer Reports' Ratings system, which by definition doesn’t go past 100. The car set a new benchmark, so we had to make changes to our scoring to account for it.

    ....the Tesla Model S P85D is an automotive milepost. It’s a remarkable car that paves a new, unorthodox course, and it’s a powerful statement of American startup ingenuity."


    Interestingly, I actually saw CR's car when I was driving in Connecticut last winter. I remember saying excitedly to my wife, "That's a P85D!" It was the first one I ever saw, and of course she was not as impressed as I. I also remember seeing the "TKT" on the license plate and was wondering if it was some sort of vanity plate because they were expecting to get lots of speeding tickets.

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    Tesla Model S P85D Breaks the Consumer Reports Ratings System


    Tesla P85D Broke Consumer Reports Rating System | Consumer Reports - YouTube


    Talking Cars with Consumer Reports #76: Tesla Model S P85D: Final Test Results - YouTube
     
  2. SabrToothSqrl

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    Ohh Snap! LOVE IT.
     
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    That is awesome. I think they should have left it at 103 though.
     
  4. Johan

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    So... if 103 now = 100 then I guess all other cars should be downgraded by either 3 points or by 3%?
     
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    Sigh.

    From that video posted above (the #76 one), 19:45 into it:

    "Look - people who buy these car - they have another car. This isn't your primary car, because it's not a very good primary car. If you need to every once in a while take a long trip - I just took the family out west on some long trips - I'm going 100 miles before finding a good gas station or something, so I mean, yeah, no, electric cars are going to be a little iffy in that situation".
     
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    Awesome!!!
     
  8. Room_A113

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    Yeah, I saw that. But until charging opportunities are ubiquitous, I kind of agree for those who have a one-car family who also like to take long trps. But I think those are few and far between.

    Also, only one out of the three guys on that video said they would buy a Model S P85D if they had $127,000 in their pocket. But hey, if Tesla can get 33% of the U.S. market share as it makes new models, no one would complain about that! :)
     
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    according to this study 98% of Tesla owners have it as primary car: Survey: Tesla as primary car?
     
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    So it seems that for CU the P85D...goes to 11.
     
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    Which just proves that people place significance on different criteria. One of those guys may not have a garage big enough to fit a Model S. The other guy may have no need for a 'family sedan' being a single guy. And so on...

    (Or maybe there's just no fixing stupid. :biggrin:)
     
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    Good one. But seems like they need a factcheck: The P85D does 0-60 in 3.1 s. It also is not more efficient than a single motor 85. The 85D is more efficient as it can torque sleep both motors.
     
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    That is what they tested it at. Not what is claimed.
     
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    Their acceleration and energy efficiency statements are based on their own data, compared to the other Model S they bought and tested a couple of years ago.

    0-60mph in 3.5s matches what other P85D owners are getting when using the same no-rollout protocol. General consensus seems to be that 3.1s isn't achievable without 1' rollout.
     
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    3.1s with rollout, 3.5s without... there's a debate on the forum regarding this...
     
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    So it looks like CR adopted their rating system to match how Telsa calculates HP...
     
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    Those who have a one-car family, and take trips, and those trips are to a Supercharger desert, and the family doesn't want to just rent a car for those cases.

    How many people will fit all of that? It's pretty minor.

    The Tesla is my only car, and having it be the primary/only car seems to be the norm, by far, rather than the exception. I wonder where people get these crazy ideas. Do they ever, like, talk to actual owners, or do they just pull stuff out of their rear ends?
     

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