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Tesla Product Announcement at noon
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AMPd
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I'm sure other trims will get it soon
Absolutely no reason not to offer it on all trims
The extra cost is to help Tesla defray legal fees.
SageBrush
REJECT Fascism
The discussion over at Elektrek mentions an interesting point: the P100D is rated 3.15 miles/kWh by EPA, compared to the P90D rated at 3 miles/kWh.
Sounds like the Tesla folks are taking the criticism of model labels not reflecting usable battery capacity to heart.
Sounds like the Tesla folks are taking the criticism of model labels not reflecting usable battery capacity to heart.
The extra cost is because they can get it. They're doing what every company does. They're putting out the new product at a higher price for the early adopters who can &will pay for it. As they ramp up the new packs they will be introduced to the lower tier cars and/or prices will come down. It helps them recover development costs more quickly. The later buyers of the lower priced vehicles also benefit.
Clearly they're not ramped up on the new pack design, and so producing at a lower volume & higher price lets them work out the bugs before going main stream.,
HankLloydRight
No Roads
To restate... just remember what Watt is someone's name, but kilo and hour are not, hence kWh.
Exactly, if you assume the $3k "range upgrade" for the 85 to 90 holds. Then a 30kw upgrade would be $18k for a S60 owner and $9k for a S75 owner. I'm going to charge a very fair, $12k for my 90kw pack so that a S60 owner can drive away with a S90 (performance increase included here mind you). Then I'm going to pay Tesla $21k for the 100kw battery ($20k battery + $1000 core fee), and walk away with a $9k upgrade for an extra 100kw. If anything, I'm getting the raw deal here, but hey, I'm doing it for the good of some S60 owner.
Canuck
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I'm not prepared to be that cynical. I think the extra cost is to account for new hardware required for AP2.0.
Only time will tell who is right.
Good luck with that. If it works out, let me know. I'd be more than happy to sell my 85 pack to help offset the costs of a P100DL pack. Although 0-60 in 2.5 is getting a little bit stupid. I can still scare people with my comparatively tame insane mode P85D.
Canuck
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??? It's not cynical. It's how the free market works. Tesla may have a secondary objective but it's not a charity. It has to become profitable at some point or it won't exist. You don't do that by selling below market.
SW2Fiddler
We Are Cognitive Dissidents
And, There. Is. No. "LUDA" because it is spelled LUDICROUS.
Holy crap, that is a good catch! Here's what's even more interesting - if I view my pending Model S order and choose 'Edit Design', the Autopilot option is still only $2,500.
My order is scheduled to go into production on August 27th. I'm somewhat tempted to cancel and re-order. Yes, that would mean paying more for autopilot. But I don't want them clearing out the old hardware and including it in my build.
There's no planned chemistry improvement at Gigafactory start up that I know about. Where do you have that from?
Tesla will start production of 21-70s at the Gigafactory soon, but they've never said this would be anything other than their current chemistry. Now, this chemistry is 10% less energy dense than was expecting.
More cells in parallel means lower resistance. Not using thin aluminum bond wire fusible links means lower resistance. Lower resistance means increased efficiency. This is the new Model 3 pack architecture "prototype" pack but the gigafactory cells are made for cooling on one end and both pos neg on the other
