whitex
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Actually the wording is very clear - no action required from the person in the driver's seat. Notice they don't even call that person a driver, since they are not required to apply to do anything at all for the car to drive from start to its destination. L2 definition required action from the driver whenever the car does something wrong (it doesn't even require the car to ask for a handover).The wording is vague enough that it could simply mean you don't have to actively apply inputs into the car. Basically end-to-end L2 could qualify for this. The sticking point is the steering wheel nags, but in context to how AP originally worked (with little to no steering nags), that was added due to regulatory pressure (which they disclaim later). They are trying to use the cabin camera to reduce or eliminate steering nag, but NHTSA finger wagged when Elon suggested that earlier in the year.
Ok, if we apply this type of literal interpretation (which I would not put past Tesla, as they have done things like this in the past), then FSD is delivered, geofenced to runway-like, straight,100ft strip of the Tesla Freemont factory perimeter road. FSD L4 delivered (according to you, since the wording didn't say anywhere that it would work outside of the Freemont factory, right?). Not much different that AP1 "find you anywhere on private property" but delivered with a caveat "as long as that property is in a straight line forward or backwards up to 20ft away from the car, and you hold a dead-man-switch while the car is moving", they never originally said it would work on any private property, right?This could be satisfied with a parking lot L4 parking mode (something suggested as probable L4 functionality in SAE documents). While it does not say it won't work out in city roads, it also doesn't say it will work on all roads and conditions. In fact, L4 explicitly allows geofence and road type based limitations (most L4 cars are heavily geofenced and do not travel on the highway during commercial service). I think it's a huge stretch to say it implies highway usage based on a parking space in the next city over. But so far regardless, no such L4 parking functionality is available yet from Tesla.
Yes, Tesla is really good a removing things and pretending they never existed, like the 90 degree driveway to street AP1 summon illustration, blind spot monitoring for AP1, redefining FSD to be what EAP used to be and declaring FSD 80% done that way without a single feature delivered, etc, etc.Tesla Network has been removed from Tesla's site completely and the details never came, so it's a bit moot (plus a sentence without detailed terms and conditions would hardly qualify as an agreement that the owner can't use the car in FSD mode with Uber for example). As you mention yourself, the page does not explicitly say such ride-sharing is without someone in the driver's seat. Someone doing rideshare with FSD Beta while in driver's seat (as plenty of YouTube videos show) can easily fall under this. In fact even many L4 cars are required to have safety drivers especially in states like California, where only recently is driverless commercial passenger service allowed.