Today's events and the other such ones around the nation are one HELLUVA distraction for Tesla. I know there are any number of highly qualified legal eagles both on this forum and throughout the Tesla-owning community. To them: It is time to put YOUR priorities in order. Enough said.
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Tesla Sales Banned in New Jersey... hopefully not for long!
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Today's events and the other such ones around the nation are one HELLUVA distraction for Tesla. I know there are any number of highly qualified legal eagles both on this forum and throughout the Tesla-owning community. To them: It is time to put YOUR priorities in order. Enough said.
apvbguy
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let me know how well that works out for you, those of us who are in the world of reality don't bother with trying to change things, the straightest path to success is understanding an working the system.
now the biggest issue I have is if they cannot hit the promised date of 3/31, where will I pick up my Tesla?
palmer_md
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It seems this was over before it started. It was approved without even allowing for public comment from the dozen folks who signed up to speak. Sad.
mitch672
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The car dealers like the way things are, they do very little and are guaranteed lots of money from the manufacturers for warranty service work.
They don't like Tesla for multiple reasons, they are not getting a cut of the sales, and, there is essentially no service "cash cow" to milk. Tesla is a threat to their very existence. Guess what? You are no longer needed dealers, ride off into the sunset, move along now.
apvbguy
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really??? and then you wonder why it is hard to be taken seriously
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how refreshing, someone who has a grasp of how things work
I'm not sure. If they start too early with this effort and fully engage the dealership lobby on a national level it might have harmed the company. They are probably at a point though they can no longer ignore things and fight back aggressively.
apvbguy
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welcome to that wacky world of NJ politics, you should have seen the mess when the legislature held committee meetings that barred public comment and then moved through some unconstitutional firearms regulations recently.
I just don't buy this (as I've said elsewhere). If this move was to force Tesla into a traditional dealership model, why couldn't Tesla just acquiesce and then contractually obligate all licensed dealers to sell at the same price and have a flat service rate for example? Is the end goal just to have Tesla be bound to franchising out their dealerships? We've already seen that Teslas aren't "free" to maintain, so it's not like there's NO money in service.
apvbguy
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mitch672
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Perhaps one needs to understand how Elon Musk operates. Currently Tesla Motors is supply constrained, not demand constrained. Right now it does not need New Jersey. The company does not advertise, but it benefits from all the media attention it gets from attempts by dealership lobbies to get state governments to thwart interstate commerce and free competitive enterprise. Many people are still unaware of Tesla Motors or its cars. I was a year ago before I bought my shares. I expect that eventually the federal courts will invoke the Constitution's interstate commerce clause and sweep away state requirements for middlemen. That may be about the same time that production is ramped up and almost everyone has become aware of Tesla Motors and its cars. Elon appears to be the one who is writing and acting out a brilliant script.
NJ action to block Tesla sales today 2pm - Can you attend?
Tesla could do this but then they'd set a precedent that other states could point to and shut down their entire preferred sales model. Granted other state laws don't directly apply but they could be used as examples that Tesla has no problems selling through a dealership model. Tesla seems to not want this.
Tesla could do this but then they'd set a precedent that other states could point to and shut down their entire preferred sales model. Granted other state laws don't directly apply but they could be used as examples that Tesla has no problems selling through a dealership model. Tesla seems to not want this.
I think they are less afraid of Tesla directly and more afraid of the that other manufactures will do the direct sale model as well.
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He doesn't care anyway. He can't run again and is looking at the national stage.
That's exactly it. Even if Tesla sells 500,000 cars a year at some point in the future that is only about 3% of new car sales. If GM and Ford work together and try to change the sales model then their business is greatly harmed.
They do not intend to make money from service which is why Tesla aims to run their service centers at break even. Their model is to make a profit on the sale of the car, thats it.
mitch672
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I'd sooner vote for a constitutional amendment to allow Obama a third term, than give Christie a single vote.
If the Republicans nominate him, they have sealed their fate (remember the Wigs? Didn't think so)
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