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I cannot believe any one is so naive as to not shop around different insurance companies. Model X, fully comp, lowest excess.

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Did you have to have your dangerous screen removed to get this price?
 
Judging by the prices quoted above I think M3 insurance prices have come down since it launched in 2019 in the UK. Now real data is available maybe it turned out to not be so bad as they first thought..
Mine had halved by the time I sold it to upgrade to the Y.

My Y is still cheaper than the first model 3 insurance I got (although the very limited number of available insurers definitely didn't help).

I suspect though that part of the pricing is a 'have you ever driven something with that kind of power/acceleration before' modifier. Having owned a car that can do 0-60 in something like 3 seconds for a couple of years and avoided driving it into a hedge must help. If I'd just come from a ford escort they may quote more..
 
It is a fact that inuance on the Tesla is SIGNIFICANTLY higher than nay other car (Porsceh £350 / Tesla £2,250) there's got to be a reason for that.

I got a quote from Avia for a Kia EV6 (eevery other dteaisl the same) £513 . . . . .. . that's Tesla £2,250 / Kia £513 . . . . WHY?
Perhaps its a UK thing? In the US, a big chunk of insurance premiums is liability, so safer cars tend to benefit with lower premiums, which (probably) helps to offset the higher repair costs. I have an Infiniti G25x and Tesla M3 AWD, both with the same insurer, and both have pretty much the same premiums (the Infiniti is a bit lower as its an older car).
 
I've just had another converstaion with Aviva about why their quote for the Tesla is 6 times higher than the Porsche Macan S and he said . . . it's because of the screen, where it is is a distraction and causes more accidents adding that they would not insure anyone under 25 for that reason.

Frankly, I can see what he is on about . . . . from my first day of the test drive I've wondere about that screen being to the side and everything that needs doing needs to be done throughthat screen - it IS dangerous . . . . WHY can't Tesla see that?
Perhaps it’s because after over 10 years of gathering accident data, there is no evidence to support the notion that the screen poses a safety risk. And I am sure others have mentioned that Teslas have an extensive number of available voice commands, which would eliminate many screen looks and touches. Maybe Teslas aren’t for you?
 
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I cannot believe any one is so naive as to not shop around different insurance companies. Model X, fully comp, lowest excess.

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My quote from DL yesterday was £970. I have 20yrs NCD, no convictions ever, no accidents in 20 years, retired, 2 car family, 6,000 miles a year , parked on driveway, SDP - no commuting. Why would mine be 3 x yours . . . clearly because the algorithm they are using doesn't like something amongst that profile?
 
My quote from DL yesterday was £970. I have 20yrs NCD, no convictions ever, no accidents in 20 years, retired, 2 car family, 6,000 miles a year , parked on driveway, SDP - no commuting. Why would mine be 3 x yours . . . clearly because the algorithm they are using doesn't like something amongst that profile?
The most likely difference is location and perceived risk from theft/driving. Other factors could be medical history of any of the drivers, I'm not sure if ex occupation has an impact given you are retired, plus any risk factors associated with your wife - driving or medical. My insurance has almost halved since we moved to the dales around 18 months ago, apart from also being older nothing else has changed for me.
 
Yesterday, after considerable searching I found out how I raise or lower the heater temperature. Trying to do that whilst dribing (IMO) is dangerous (at least as dangerous as answering a cell phone (which is illegal).

Before you all thumbs down this post ask yourself the question . . . am I being objective or you unable to excape your inherent tribal insincts (Tesla is my tribe and I will hear no wrong). Tech should only be there if it makes it better, easier, safer,having EVERY function on that screen is dangerous, it';s tech for the sake of tech, a knob would be easier, safer, better.
 
Yesterday, after considerable searching I found out how I raise or lower the heater temperature. Trying to do that whilst dribing (IMO) is dangerous (at least as dangerous as answering a cell phone (which is illegal).

Before you all thumbs down this post ask yourself the question . . . am I being objective or you unable to excape your inherent tribal insincts (Tesla is my tribe and I will hear no wrong). Tech should only be there if it makes it better, easier, safer,having EVERY function on that screen is dangerous, it';s tech for the sake of tech, a knob would be easier, safer, better.

I've never needed to change the temperature so urgently that I can't do it whilst the car is crusing in autopilot or I'm stopped at a traffic light or elsewhere. And when I do need to change it, I simply use voice commands.
 
Yesterday, after considerable searching I found out how I raise or lower the heater temperature. Trying to do that whilst dribing (IMO) is dangerous (at least as dangerous as answering a cell phone (which is illegal).

Before you all thumbs down this post ask yourself the question . . . am I being objective or you unable to excape your inherent tribal insincts (Tesla is my tribe and I will hear no wrong). Tech should only be there if it makes it better, easier, safer,having EVERY function on that screen is dangerous, it';s tech for the sake of tech, a knob would be easier, safer, better.
With the greatest of respect - surely you knew what you were getting yourself into before you bought the car?

I mean, it's probably unreasonable to expect people to read the manual in full before purchasing, and some stuff ought to be intuitive, but you need only look at photos of the car, or any review, to see that there are no knobs and that interaction with the car is exclusively done via the screen, the two stalks on the steering column, and the steering wheel scroll wheels.

Moaning about the lack of knobs for heater controls, or indeed anything as fundamental as this, after you've already bought the car seems really strange to me.
 
Yesterday, after considerable searching I found out how I raise or lower the heater temperature. Trying to do that whilst dribing (IMO) is dangerous (at least as dangerous as answering a cell phone (which is illegal).

Before you all thumbs down this post ask yourself the question . . . am I being objective or you unable to excape your inherent tribal insincts (Tesla is my tribe and I will hear no wrong). Tech should only be there if it makes it better, easier, safer,having EVERY function on that screen is dangerous, it';s tech for the sake of tech, a knob would be easier, safer, better.
o_O The heating controls is one of the more simpler controls to get your head around, even my better half picked that up straight away (and she is not very tech savvy, she doesn't even have a smart phone!!).

I'm now wondering if you are just trolling this forum and don't actually own a Tesla.
 
Yesterday, after considerable searching I found out how I raise or lower the heater temperature. Trying to do that whilst dribing (IMO) is dangerous (at least as dangerous as answering a cell phone (which is illegal).

Before you all thumbs down this post ask yourself the question . . . am I being objective or you unable to excape your inherent tribal insincts (Tesla is my tribe and I will hear no wrong). Tech should only be there if it makes it better, easier, safer,having EVERY function on that screen is dangerous, it';s tech for the sake of tech, a knob would be easier, safer, better.
Appreciate user experiences and personal preferences of these experiences will differ, but you appear to want to make life more difficult for yourself by not reading the manual if you cannot reasonably figure the controls out on your own in a timely manner. The manual is easily accessible in car via Controls > Service > Owner's Manual. Within it there's a dedicated section for Climate Controls in the section titled 'Using the Touchscreen'. The information is literally a couple of taps away; it doesn't require "considerable searching". I find the temperature controls very intuitive; I think they're set to Auto as default, though I have mine on manual, on a low fan speed and set to 20c. I rarely feel the need to change these during a journey, especially if I'm travelling alone, but if I do need to make an adjustment and I'm not stationary or on autopilot, I will use the voice commands. Sometimes, on a very warm day, I will change to Auto. Having been an owner for almost 3 years, I don't agree that having most on the controls accessible through the touch screen is dangerous. Yes, it took a short time to get used to them but I had first known and accepted that was the Tesla way of doing things.
 
My quote from DL yesterday was £970. I have 20yrs NCD, no convictions ever, no accidents in 20 years, retired, 2 car family, 6,000 miles a year , parked on driveway, SDP - no commuting. Why would mine be 3 x yours . . . clearly because the algorithm they are using doesn't like something amongst that profile?
age?
or maybe they read some of your posts?
 
Yesterday, after considerable searching I found out how I raise or lower the heater temperature. Trying to do that whilst dribing (IMO) is dangerous (at least as dangerous as answering a cell phone (which is illegal).

Before you all thumbs down this post ask yourself the question . . . am I being objective or you unable to excape your inherent tribal insincts (Tesla is my tribe and I will hear no wrong). Tech should only be there if it makes it better, easier, safer,having EVERY function on that screen is dangerous, it';s tech for the sake of tech, a knob would be easier, safer, better.

You did see the inside of the car before you bought it didn't you? My 78 year old mother couldn't work a Tesla, so guess what? She drives an Audi.
 
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Yesterday, after considerable searching I found out how I raise or lower the heater temperature.

You're trolling now. Heater temperature is one of the most obvious functions of the car.

There are several examples you could have given that would have had my sympathy.. but you picked the one that hasn't changed in years and is in the obvious and easy to find place.

Have you actually ever been in in a Tesla?
 
Yesterday, after considerable searching I found out how I raise or lower the heater temperature. Trying to do that whilst dribing (IMO) is dangerous (at least as dangerous as answering a cell phone (which is illegal).

Before you all thumbs down this post ask yourself the question . . . am I being objective or you unable to excape your inherent tribal insincts (Tesla is my tribe and I will hear no wrong). Tech should only be there if it makes it better, easier, safer,having EVERY function on that screen is dangerous, it';s tech for the sake of tech, a knob would be easier, safer, better.
really? after CONSIDERABLE searching? it took you considerable time to find something what is always on the bottom of the screen?!

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Yesterday, after considerable searching I found out how I raise or lower the heater temperature. Trying to do that whilst dribing (IMO) is dangerous (at least as dangerous as answering a cell phone (which is illegal).

Before you all thumbs down this post ask yourself the question . . . am I being objective or you unable to excape your inherent tribal insincts (Tesla is my tribe and I will hear no wrong). Tech should only be there if it makes it better, easier, safer,having EVERY function on that screen is dangerous, it';s tech for the sake of tech, a knob would be easier, safer, better.
I am with Yessus on this one (first time for everything)
There are many items that one could accuse Tesla of making hard or harder to find from the glove box button to the trip meter or the tyre pressures.
but the temperature??? that is one of the few things that are literally on the screen at all times whatever you do.
Seriously if you are not trolling and you genuinely had to do "considerable searching" to find it then this is 100% not the car for you.
If you are still within the returns period then maybe that is an option otherwise used values are good right now maybe cut your losses and trade it in?
I think it will work out best for you all

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Ideally do it before it next rains
 
The Tesla screen is only dangerous if the driver wants it to be dangerous.

A good read of the manual, use of voice commands as much as possible and, again, it’s only dangerous if the driver wants it to be dangerous.

There is after all, if really challenged, always the option of stopping safely before going head down.

Voice commands list…

 
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