Tesla Screen (Dangerous)

[MrT3]

Yesterday, after considerable searching I found out how I raise or lower the heater temperature. Trying to do that whilst dribing (IMO) is dangerous (at least as dangerous as answering a cell phone (which is illegal).

I don't think there is any argument that physical buttons are easier to use without having to look once you build up a muscle memory (which is why touch screen TV remotes are rubbish). But the advantages of having the buttons virtual rather than physical is something Tesla believes in.

If you cannot operate the temp control safely when driving then you need to either to wait until you are stationary or try the voice control.

PS it is only illegal to directly answer a cell phone call if the phone isn't in a fixed holder. Given that the Tesla screen is fixed and doesn't need to be held still, the law doesn't agree with you that it is just as dangerous.

 

[FEERSUMENDJIN]

It is a fact that inuance on the Tesla is SIGNIFICANTLY higher than nay other car (Porsceh £350 / Tesla £2,250) there's got to be a reason for that.

I got a quote from Avia for a Kia EV6 (eevery other dteaisl the same) £513 . . . . .. . that's Tesla £2,250 / Kia £513 . . . . WHY?

The heating controls is one of the more simpler controls to get your head around, even my better half picked that up straight away (and she is not very tech savvy, she doesn't even have a smart phone!!).

I'm now wondering if you are just trolling this forum and don't actually own a Tesla.

I agree 42 is definitely not the answer to everything in this case.

 

[drtimhill]

Yesterday, after considerable searching I found out how I raise or lower the heater temperature. Trying to do that whilst dribing (IMO) is dangerous (at least as dangerous as answering a cell phone (which is illegal).

Before you all thumbs down this post ask yourself the question . . . am I being objective or you unable to excape your inherent tribal insincts (Tesla is my tribe and I will hear no wrong). Tech should only be there if it makes it better, easier, safer,having EVERY function on that screen is dangerous, it';s tech for the sake of tech, a knob would be easier, safer, better.

First world problems .. the first car I drove didn't have working heating at all, and A/C wasn't even an option!

 

[DrTR]

I love the screen and the lack of buttons. Love minimalistic Scandi look of it all. Really the only thing I need to check now and then is the speed, everything else can wait when safe to do so. Also, tried the voice recognition the other day to change temperature and it worked a treat.

I do think OP’s not really thought his Tesla purchase through, when spending this much cash I would always figure out usability and figure out ongoing costs before putting order through.

 

[Wol747]

I've just had another converstaion with Aviva about why their quote for the Tesla is 6 times higher than the Porsche Macan S and he said . . . it's because of the screen, where it is is a distraction and causes more accidents adding that they would not insure anyone under 25 for that reason.

Frankly, I can see what he is on about . . . . from my first day of the test drive I've wondere about that screen being to the side and everything that needs doing needs to be done throughthat screen - it IS dangerous . . . . WHY can't Tesla see that?

As a right-hander I find the screen quite difficult to use accurately with my left hand: if I sit in the pax seat it's much easier.
I suspect that in the US a left-hander will possibly find the same thing.
The thing that riles me is the sheer inconsistency of the various icons, apps and "windows". It's as if they got a committee of half a dozen teenagers and told them to code a Tesla UI - and by the way we want it by the weekend! There are so many glaring issues I can't be bothered to list them, but things like the entertainment screen getting priority, not being able to swipe it off without making that second swipe, the different ways of killing NetFlix, YouTube etc and the tiny icons at the bottom would be a start.

 

[Wol747]

Perhaps its a UK thing? In the US, a big chunk of insurance premiums is liability, so safer cars tend to benefit with lower premiums, which (probably) helps to offset the higher repair costs. I have an Infiniti G25x and Tesla M3 AWD, both with the same insurer, and both have pretty much the same premiums (the Infiniti is a bit lower as its an older car).

Not just a UK thing - in Australia premiums are quite a bit higher. Of course the several months' wait for spares for repairs doesn't help.

 

[Wol747]

The Tesla screen is only dangerous if the driver wants it to be dangerous.

A good read of the manual, use of voice commands as much as possible and, again, it’s only dangerous if the driver wants it to be dangerous.

There is after all, if really challenged, always the option of stopping safely before going head down.

Voice commands list…

A Complete List of All Tesla Voice Commands

A list of all Tesla voice commands for your car.

www.notateslaapp.com

Great if the voice commands actually work - but they don't. I gave up using them a long time ago except for fun to see what happens.

 

[Wol747]

The Tesla screen is only dangerous if the driver wants it to be dangerous.

A good read of the manual, use of voice commands as much as possible and, again, it’s only dangerous if the driver wants it to be dangerous.

There is after all, if really challenged, always the option of stopping safely before going head down.

Voice commands list…

A Complete List of All Tesla Voice Commands

A list of all Tesla voice commands for your car.

www.notateslaapp.com

Actually the manual is one of the issues!
Quite apart from the grey low contrast font, having to read it onscreen is all very well but often you have to go to the settings to see how they relate to the manual - and then go back to the latter via several more submenus. And, as I found yesterday the incar manual doesn't always match up with what's changed in one of the last updates. Also, downloading the manual on your computer isn't a help because that's not updated day by day.

 

[yessuz]

Actually the manual is one of the issues!
Quite apart from the grey low contrast font, having to read it onscreen is all very well but often you have to go to the settings to see how they relate to the manual - and then go back to the latter via several more submenus. And, as I found yesterday the incar manual doesn't always match up with what's changed in one of the last updates. Also, downloading the manual on your computer isn't a help because that's not updated day by day.

sorry, but the menu and functions, those which are useful on day-to-day basis and not the ones which you set once and forget it, are quite limited and easily accessible.

BMW iDrive, for example, has multiple menus under each menu. it is also not convenient to use on the go to change things. but you just set it once, never other to touch again and never complain :/

 

[Jason71]

I agree 42 is definitely not the answer to everything in this case.

I was thinking Marvin might have been a more appropriate handle.

 

[Xdama]

It’s not the first car to have the speedo to one side and it won’t be the last.

You can control pretty much everything via voice control if you want, which is safer than a lot of alternatives and in reality you really don’t need to fiddle much with things on the screen whilst driving.

As long as it understands your regional accent. It’s pretty useless for me personally but I can see it being good for those it understands

 

[MrBadger]

As long as it understands your regional accent. It’s pretty useless for me personally but I can see it being good for those it understands

I speak proper englich and it still doesn't do what I ask.

I am still baffled how it often displays on screen 100% what you said, then 'corrects' it to the complete opposite of what you said. For me, its not too bad at understanding my queens englich - its knowing what to do with it seem to be the problem.

 

[Xdama]

It is a fact that inuance on the Tesla is SIGNIFICANTLY higher than nay other car (Porsceh £350 / Tesla £2,250) there's got to be a reason for that.

I got a quote from Avia for a Kia EV6 (eevery other dteaisl the same) £513 . . . . .. . that's Tesla £2,250 / Kia £513 . . . . WHY?

Model 3 RWD	5.8	140
Model 3 Long Range	4.2	145
Model 3 Performance	3.1	160

Insurance Group	48 - 50

Kia EV6

0 - 60 mph	5.0 - 7.1 secs

Top Speed 117MPH

Insurance Group	34 - 45

Also they are not cheap to repair, made of aluminium (less welders available as it’s specialised), Tesla part’s are sometimes hard to get hold of (see the windscreen thread in this forum) and when driven by knobs more likely to end up in a ditch.

 

[Peteski]

Yesterday, after considerable searching I found out how I raise or lower the heater temperature. Trying to do that whilst dribing (IMO) is dangerous (at least as dangerous as answering a cell phone (which is illegal).

Before you all thumbs down this post ask yourself the question . . . am I being objective or you unable to excape your inherent tribal insincts (Tesla is my tribe and I will hear no wrong). Tech should only be there if it makes it better, easier, safer,having EVERY function on that screen is dangerous, it';s tech for the sake of tech, a knob would be easier, safer, better.

This is all entirely your subjective opinion presented as a universal fact. That's why you are finding disagreement here. Not because we are all brainwashed Tesla fanboys. On the contrary, you must have noticed by now that this is one of the most pedantic, fussy and highly critical car forums on the planet.

 

[Peteski]

Judging by the prices quoted above I think M3 insurance prices have come down since it launched in 2019 in the UK. Now real data is available maybe it turned out to not be so bad as they first thought..

Both our Model X and M3 insurance came down this year by a significant amount via the same insurer (Direct Line) - I think the X was a couple of hundred pounds cheaper and the 3 a little less. I was pleasantly surprised.

 

[Peteski]

My quote from DL yesterday was £970. I have 20yrs NCD, no convictions ever, no accidents in 20 years, retired, 2 car family, 6,000 miles a year , parked on driveway, SDP - no commuting. Why would mine be 3 x yours . . . clearly because the algorithm they are using doesn't like something amongst that profile?

Maybe they just think you are too old for a touchscreen?

 

[Terry F]

Great if the voice commands actually work - but they don't. I gave up using them a long time ago except for fun to see what happens.

Interesting, I've only had my car 3 weeks but have tried quite a few voice commands and so far they have all worked first time! (except for a couple of searches in Spotify, but I think that was more down to my description and Spotify not finding a decent match).

 

[Wol747]

sorry, but the menu and functions, those which are useful on day-to-day basis and not the ones which you set once and forget it, are quite limited and easily accessible.

BMW iDrive, for example, has multiple menus under each menu. it is also not convenient to use on the go to change things. but you just set it once, never other to touch again and never complain :/

I was talking about trying to look at functions while reading the manual! Since the manual page doesn't stay available when you look at the settings for example, each time you reference the latter to see how the manual instructions work you have to go through the whole procedure of getting back to the appropriate page to continue.
With a PROPER manual you keep it open while investigating the actual workings onscreen.
Oh - that's old fashioned. But it works!

 

[gangzoom]

I was talking about trying to look at functions while reading the manual! Since the manual page doesn't stay available when you look at the settings for example, each time you reference the latter to see how the manual instructions work you have to go through the whole procedure of getting back to the appropriate page to continue.
With a PROPER manual you keep it open while investigating the actual workings onscreen.
Oh - that's old fashioned. But it works!

Maybe would should suggest to Tesla to consider DUAL screens on the new S/X? I've just gone to a triple screen setup at work, Space X crew module is a triple screen setup too. More screens is always the answer .

 

[Wol747]

Maybe would should suggest to Tesla to consider DUAL screens on the new S/X? I've just gone to a triple screen setup at work, Space X crew module is a triple screen setup too. More screens is always the answer .

No, just make the downloadable manuals stay up to date so you can read them on an iPad while playing with the car.
At present even the onscreen manuals incar are not fully up with the updates.