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Since Tesla boasted about its loaner program on its blog a couple of years ago perhaps they could be just as communicative with a new blog post explaining why it's changing now (if that indeed is the case).
Not every Tesla customer cares about Tesla's "bigger picture" goal. Many of them just want the best car for the money. If Tesla is willing to lose some of those customers and only wants the ones who care about their bigger picture goals then they seem to be getting on the right track.
Perhaps it's just temporary for a few months.
I do not understand this comment.Tangentially, this makes the minority fanboism that seems to persist (at TMC in particular) all the more amusing.
LOL I've been on the anti TESLA side this entire thread. But do you know the mark up on a P100DL?
They convert a few customers and it will more than pay for the deprecation. They just have to up manufacturing capacity.
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I don't expect Tesla to pay for warranty repairs for excessive launch mode yahoos.
Oh man, I had to go back 3 pages to confirm you really said this. These people (not Yahoo!'s) laid out big bucks for the launch mode capability and no one told them at the time there was a point at which using it would be excessive. The responsibility here is on Tesla not the owner.I don't expect Tesla to pay for warranty repairs for excessive launch mode yahoos.
What this goes to show is that TMC members should not launch on these reported issues until they are verified. One guy in a service center saying something is not = fact or policy. And, no, Elon can't prevent the occasional off piste employee.This is not true at all. No change in our loaner policy. In fact, we surprised some customers in December with P100D loaners!
@andrewket didnt "launch". He asked if anyone else was told the same thing. That's what this place is for.What this goes to show is that TMC members should not launch on these reported issues until they are verified. One guy in a service center saying something is not = fact or policy. And, no, Elon can't prevent the occasional off piste employee.
I'm not criticizing original post, just all the overreaction since.@andrewket didnt "launch". He asked if anyone else was told the same thing. That's what this place is for.
What this goes to show is that TMC members should not launch on these reported issues until they are verified. One guy in a service center saying something is not = fact or policy. And, no, Elon can't prevent the occasional off piste employee.
Oh man, I had to go back 3 pages to confirm you really said this.
These people (not Yahoo!'s) laid out big bucks for the launch mode capability and no one told them at the time there was a point at which using it would be excessive. The responsibility here is on Tesla not the owner.
We should report things and we should converse. We should say that, if true, it is an issue. What we should not do is lump in with all of the other "Tesla is screwing us" stuff until we have more evidence. I long ago learned that the service center people often know less than we owners do. So I take "service center told me" with several grains of salt.While I agree certainly it is good to reserve judgement until something is confirmed, I don't agree this should slow down conversation. It is often the case that verifying something is very difficult and we may have to base our knowledge on very limited and partial data. Yet this does not mean that data is automatically false or misleading, it is just the nature of the beast when dealing with a... rather communications-limited company like Tesla - or any comapny for that matter as companies have their own reasons to keep things private many times. We as users and owners of the product often have different priorities and needs to know, of course...
If everything needed confirmation before converesing, we'd talk about nothing really. It is also possible without our conversation Tesla would not have seen the need to interject with their take on the info. So, all good, the discussion took its course, got more accurate over time and added to our information.
I searched because I usually agree with your posts but this one was just wrong factually and I had to confirm you really said this. Tesla sold people a performance feature for a lot of money then took it away to protect warranty claims without offering a refund. I can understand that they didn't intend for this to happen but it did so do the right thing. It's not speculation when you have emails from Tesla to owners and the article you linked also shows it's not speculation. The point that "this is what other manufacturers do" is spin. We will just have to agree to disagree on this one.This place is full of speculation and misinformation (and yahoos) and I wouldn't want it any other way.
It's nice to be searched so diligently.
"Depending on how launch mode is used, the computer may eventually limit the available power during launch mode to protect the powertrain. Note that this is a common strategy also employed in other high performance cars."
Caveat Emptor
We should report things and we should converse. We should say that, if true, it is an issue. What we should not do is lump in with all of the other "Tesla is screwing us" stuff until we have more evidence. I long ago learned that the service center people often know less than we owners do. So I take "service center told me" with several grains of salt.
Does anyone else have any other ideas?
Andrew
2. Suggest to Tesla to sell more cars to Enterprise, so you can rent those from Enterprise?
- During peaks (like winter tire changeovers), we may have to resort to rental cars. It pains us to do this, but helps keep our promise of a loaner to you. To ease this, we've worked with folks at Hertz, Avis, Sixt and Enterprise to add more Teslas to their fleets.