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Tesla should of had key fobs for the Model 3.

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I am on board with both arguments in this thread. He should've used "should have" or some derivation thereof. Also, Tesla should've given us the option of a key fob.

The whole bluetooth thing only works about 50% of the time for me. If I'm on the phone, it doesn't connect at all. If I have my hands full, it doesn't work. If I'm leaving the gym with my bluetooth headphones still connected, I have to disconnect, cycle bluetooth, then wait a few moments and try again. All of this is even more complicated when my hands are full of things like groceries. To compound matters, once I'm inside the car it's a coinflip on whether or not bluetooth will actually connect to the car and allow me to drive without placing the key card on the center console. I love most things about this car, but IMO the entry mechanism is a ****show.

Curious...what phone OS & version do you have?
 
I don't have a Model 3 yet (currently deferring to check out "D" configuration) and so I don't know how well the wireless/phone "key" works in practice...but the idea is very, very appealing to me. Would love to carry one less thing (fob) and just use my phone. Provided reliability is high, seems like a winning approach to me.
 
Phone as key has been pretty flawless for me from a reliability standpoing, *HOWEVER* it's still awkward and onerous to open the frunk because I have to get out the phone, log in to the phone (the lockscreen widget doesn't seem to work unless the app has connected while open within a few seconds), open the app, wait for the car to wake up (or get within bluetooth range), and then press the button… which means I effectively never use it because it's faster to just get in the car, press the button, and get back out, but that's idiotic too.

My mobile charger, inflation kit and chains are up there, instead of using it for things like takeout food, gym bag and such like I had intended.

I used to be a fairly ardent supporter of the fob, and I still wish they'd offer one, but I don't know if I'd use it to be honest. I guess I've just relegated myself to no longer thinking the frunk is particularly useful.
 
Phone as key has been pretty flawless for me from a reliability standpoing, *HOWEVER* it's still awkward and onerous to open the frunk because I have to get out the phone, log in to the phone (the lockscreen widget doesn't seem to work unless the app has connected while open within a few seconds), open the app, wait for the car to wake up (or get within bluetooth range), and then press the button… which means I effectively never use it because it's faster to just get in the car, press the button, and get back out, but that's idiotic too.

My mobile charger, inflation kit and chains are up there, instead of using it for things like takeout food, gym bag and such like I had intended.

I used to be a fairly ardent supporter of the fob, and I still wish they'd offer one, but I don't know if I'd use it to be honest. I guess I've just relegated myself to no longer thinking the frunk is particularly useful.

Maybe in the future, it will be possible to use Siri (or equivelent in Android) to open (unlatch) the frunk via voice. With my MS, when I inevitably find myself unexpectedly needing to get something from the car and my fob is on the other side of the house, saying, "Hey Siri. Unlock my car" is pretty convenient. Definitely more convenient than finding and using the app directly.

I know there are limitations to what can be done with Siri and cars...not sure if that is on Apple's side (probably) or Tesla's, but there may be a chance that trunk/frunk unlatching may be possible over voice in the future.
 
Maybe in the future, it will be possible to use Siri (or equivelent in Android) to open (unlatch) the frunk via voice. With my MS, when I inevitably find myself unexpectedly needing to get something from the car and my fob is on the other side of the house, saying, "Hey Siri. Unlock my car" is pretty convenient. Definitely more convenient than finding and using the app directly.

I know there are limitations to what can be done with Siri and cars...not sure if that is on Apple's side (probably) or Tesla's, but there may be a chance that trunk/frunk unlatching may be possible over voice in the future.

Right now when the car is on LTE, "hey siri" is basically useless.

"Hey Siri, unlock my car"
"You'll need to unlock your iPhone… "
"Insubordinate little strumpet!"
*unlock phone*
"Hey Siri, unlock my car"
wait…
…wait…
…keep waiting…
…still waitinggggg…
…we continue to wait…
"Sorry, I couldn't unlock your car"

Maybe once there's a Tesla app for the watch AND the Model 3 power management is better and the car is always online…
 
I see. Maybe I have much better luck because my car is on Wifi (at least when it's home/garage). For me, "Unlock my car" works within 5 seconds and probably 90%+ reliably.

I have an iPhone X. Yes, I guess the phone does need to be unlocked, but thinking about it now, I guess I usually either hold the phone up (and doing so FaceID unlocks the phone passively) or I hold the side button (forgoing the 'Hey Siri' part) and just say, "Unlock my car".

In any event, it works fast and reliably much more often than it fails. YMMV of course.
 
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I see. Maybe I have much better luck because my car is on Wifi (at least when it's home/garage). For me, "Unlock my car" works within 5 seconds and probably 90%+ reliably.

I have an iPhone X. Yes, I guess the phone does need to be unlocked, but thinking about it now, I guess I usually either hold the phone up (and doing so FaceID unlocks the phone passively) or I hold the side button (forgoing the 'Hey Siri' part) and just say, "Unlock my car".

In any event, it works fast and reliably much more often than it fails. YMMV of course.

Yeah, perhaps once the 3 gets wifi it'll be more useful. I'd still rather do it from the Watch, though.
 
Yeah, perhaps once the 3 gets wifi it'll be more useful. I'd still rather do it from the Watch, though.

Oh yeah! Forgot the 3 doesn't have WiFi yet. I'm sure it's "coming soon" though.

And agreed, having it on the Watch would be even better. Given Tesla's backlog in software, not sure how much effort they are putting into developing smart watch apps at the moment, though.
 
Phone as key has been pretty flawless for me from a reliability standpoing, *HOWEVER* it's still awkward and onerous to open the frunk because I have to get out the phone, log in to the phone (the lockscreen widget doesn't seem to work unless the app has connected while open within a few seconds), open the app, wait for the car to wake up (or get within bluetooth range), and then press the button… which means I effectively never use it because it's faster to just get in the car, press the button, and get back out, but that's idiotic too
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This is another great point. The delivery specialist specifically pointed out the grocery hooks in the frunk when I took delivery. But I'm going from having to press one button to get into the frunk to pressing five buttons, plus waiting for connectivity. There's no way those grocery hooks will ever be used for groceries.
 
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This is another great point. The delivery specialist specifically pointed out the grocery hooks in the frunk when I took delivery. But I'm going from having to press one button to get into the frunk to pressing five buttons, plus waiting for connectivity. There's no way those grocery hooks will ever be used for groceries.

Not to mention the inevitable handprints on the hood…
 
Fob-less M3 is yet another feature that might be useful in the future, so they went ahead and put it in. For the Tesla Network car-sharing, there needs to be an ability for someone to drive your car (with permission) and not need a fob. Yes, the MX and MS can be started remotely without the fob, but not really driven very consistently if there is no cell service. BT unlocking and starting will be more consistent for car-sharing.

Yes, they could have had a fob, too, but probably deemed unnecessarily redundant (like a dash display).
 
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