FourOhFour
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There's nothing wrong with a vehicle that steers away from soft grass and towards an oncoming truck?
I'm sorry, but this software update is broken and should never have been released in this state.
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Tesla Software 2019.16.3
- Thread starter ibGeek
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I'm sorry, but this software update is broken and should never have been released in this state.
I don't think you're ready for this car. For all we know, they're forcing something here in order to get data needed to make things safer, or testing the public on preference... I'm OK with this noise, but you are clearly not. This is all Beta stuff, changing VERY fast, and anyone using Beta software has to have some level of acceptance. This is necessary for Tesla to win. But saying "I'm not buying the car until this glitch is taken care of..." sounds like "I reject this milkshake because there's no cherrie on top." I know, not the same here, just how it sounds.
No disrespect, but this car is not for your type. You'll likely complaint until eternity on the changes taking place now and for the next several years. The only time I've seen Tesla change something from complaints is when it was truly a great idea or, in the case of Model S and rear camera persistence, EVERY OWNER complains on that one item and starts legal proceedings. Complaining on this will have little to no effect unless you have a strong case and a large following. Cancelling your order will also have no affect.
FYI, we are here for different reasons. Myself, I DID NOT buy this car to save the planet, I just want to be a part of the automation wave, and the economics made sense for us. (However, when you walk the walk long enough, the planet becomes part of your thinking like holding the stupid hand-rail at work. You also begin to hate big oil and the stock market manipulators.)
If you change your mind and decide to buy now, welcome to the club, and no ill feelings either way. And if you are a Troll, and there is no way to be sure, then enough said already.
FMinMI
Member
Yeah, but don't forget Teslafi only has a SMALL fraction (6K cars out of 250K) of vehicles that it polls - you have to subscribe/pay for it and there is no way to tell how that pool of cars 'ratios' to what is happening in the wild...
Me: "They changed how the car drives after I ordered it and I'm not sure I want it anymore unless they're likely to change it back."
You: "You're just not ready for the car. Or maybe you're a troll."
I'm sorry if my hypothetical rejection of your favorite car hurt your feelings.
OK, I'll take it if you don't want it
On the lighter side, I think that's why Tesla allows people to choose if/when to upgrade software. Did you elect this version or was it already installed at purchase?
... and I just responded to myself. Need more sleep.
But I DO want it. I want it so bad. I just know ELDA would probably drive me nuts. I'm not trolling, I'm bummed. I feel like the little kid who just had his ice cream cone smacked out of his hand.
ord3r
Member
Not sure if elda problems are real, or the people having issues are just bad drivers....
All these stories like “I was just crossing over the median like normal when elda came out of nowhere”.
If that’s not the case here, I’m sure it eventually will be as self driving becomes safer than humans but humans still think they are better
All these stories like “I was just crossing over the median like normal when elda came out of nowhere”.
If that’s not the case here, I’m sure it eventually will be as self driving becomes safer than humans but humans still think they are better
Just let the AP drives you in somebody elses car without intervening bad driver you ;-)Not sure if elda problems are real, or the people having issues are just bad drivers....
All these stories like “I was just crossing over the median like normal when elda came out of nowhere”.
If that’s not the case here, I’m sure it eventually will be as self driving becomes safer than humans but humans still think they are better
Exactly! I know some say it's common to cross a double yellow line to pass a bike and hope/expect the oncoming traffic will move over...but if you can't pass the bike in time, you should wait behind the bike and allow oncoming traffic to use their lane! Just two days ago, I almost got hit by a car in my lane that was trying to pass a bike. Just because a driver is impatient about being behind a bike doesn't give them the right to cross the lines into oncoming traffic, endangering everyone in both lanes. It may be "common courtesy" but it's also against the law.Not sure if elda problems are real, or the people having issues are just bad drivers....
All these stories like “I was just crossing over the median like normal when elda came out of nowhere”.
If that’s not the case here, I’m sure it eventually will be as self driving becomes safer than humans but humans still think they are better
I think you're misunderstanding some of the examples, people (tesla drivers) are going onto the white line to avoid other drivers crossing the double yellow, then ELDA veers you towards the the oncoming car. Also sometimes you do cross double yellow (with no oncoming traffic) to avoid objects or roadkill in road and it steers you back into lane and into the object.Not sure if elda problems are real, or the people having issues are just bad drivers....
All these stories like “I was just crossing over the median like normal when elda came out of nowhere”.
If that’s not the case here, I’m sure it eventually will be as self driving becomes safer than humans but humans still think they are better
Also just like early AP it really doesn't handle wide or merging lanes well. Pulling up to a stop sign that had a left turn lane and a right turn lane (lines were faded) it tried to pull me out of the right lane and in between the two turning lanes.
I think long term AP and other systems will be superior to human drivers, and in some cases (primarily highway and city with well painted lines) ELDA is probably overall safer, but in its current iteration on rural mountain roads (with occasionally faded lines and tons of roadkill) it is dangerous. I assume Tesla is going to allow us to permanently disable it (an easy and obvious solution), but until they do or at least announce that they will, I will keep voicing my concern.
Not sure if elda problems are real, or the people having issues are just bad drivers....
All these stories like “I was just crossing over the median like normal when elda came out of nowhere”.
If that’s not the case here, I’m sure it eventually will be as self driving becomes safer than humans but humans still think they are better
They're real... as of 16.2 anyway. It's a net gain though, M3 and I work as a team. Future will have more take-overs I'm certain. It's how you get the safety data... I want more. Some people don't like it when someone grabs the wheel. Change happens... fast here.
Now take that example of you almost getting hit two days ago, and imagine your car veering TOWARDS the oncoming car. Well thats exactly what has been happening to me. Car veers into my lane, I veer away from them and into white line, car veers back towards them. Its absolutely terrifying, its like a passenger leaning over and grabbing the wheel while you drive. I think people don't understand why we are so upset because its hard to understand how terrifying that is till it happens to you.
SammichLover
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If it does get rectified, it will be in part because of many good folks in this forum who were not too 'weary' and took the time to provide feedback to Tesla.
milleron
Member
That's exactly why I said that our "participation involves letting the developers know there's a problem with ELDA."
I knew I'd get flamed for my post, but if you'd read it carefully, you'd have seen that we're not in disagreement on this point.
