Tesla Software updates - Australia

[moa999]

we have many new 40 AREA zones in Sydney

Interesting.
Combined with the some YouTubers testing homemade speed signs,
Possibly suggests that Tesla is actually using Sign Matching to known sign database,

Rather than reading numbers.

So a 40 Area or 40 End sign would be ignored.
As would a fake 77 sign.

Might be the way around the Mobileye patent.

 

[James_B]

I got excited this morning as I got a software update notification, but I went to 2020.36.16, rather than 2020.40.3. Oh well, hopefully will get another update in the coming days.

 

[AndyEV]

I got excited this morning as I got a software update notification, but I went to 2020.36.16, rather than 2020.40.3. Oh well, hopefully will get another update in the coming days.

Ha, me too. I was superkeen to see the sign recognition, but got upgraded from 2020.36.10 to......2020.36.11.

 

[malc01]

2020.40.3 installed yesterday on Model 3.
Speed sign recognition working with mixed results.
It identified a transition from 60 to 50 correctly with the sign animated on the screen as I drove past.
Later in a 60 zone it switched to 40 when I passed a bus. It had reacted to the signage on the back of the bus.

 

[Hairyman]

Semantic vs pragmatic understanding is going to be a problem for a while

 

[ZeeDoktor]

I'm at quite a loss with the new camera based speed limits. They don't really work. Or they really don't work. It's always one of the two.

What's worse is there is no dash indication declaring the source of the currently applied speed limit. That makes it all but impossible to evaluate which part of the system is failing us. NN or faulty maps?

I drove through Lane Cove tunnel today, and it still showed a 40 limit near the exit travelling direction city, like it often does, thinking I'm not inside the tunnel but on a neighbourhood street above.

How hard can it possibly be to tell the machine that if there's no GPS signal and you were in a tunnel you almost certainly still are in the tunnel!

 

[SandyP]

I drove through Lane Cove tunnel today, and it still showed a 40 limit near the exit travelling direction city, like it often does, thinking I'm not inside the tunnel but on a neighbourhood street above.

Speed sign recognition had been added for local roads in AU, but are yet to be added for highways in AU.

From release notes for AU:

Speed Assist now leverages your car's cameras to detect speed limit signs to improve the accuracy of speed limit data on local roads.

From release notes for US:

In addition to local roads, Speed Assist now leverages your car's cameras to detect speed limit signs to improve the accuracy of speed limit data for highways.

Hopefully we will see another update to add it for AU highways.

 

[moa999]

And you can tell it's working when the speed sign is displayed on the screen

Plus wouldn't be surprised when they switch on the system for freeways that it doesn't detect the negative (white text on black) electronic signs.

 

[Hairyman]

Speed sign recognition had been added for local roads in AU, but are yet to be added for highways in AU.

From release notes for AU:

Speed Assist now leverages your car's cameras to detect speed limit signs to improve the accuracy of speed limit data on local roads.

From release notes for US:

In addition to local roads, Speed Assist now leverages your car's cameras to detect speed limit signs to improve the accuracy of speed limit data for highways.

Hopefully we will see another update to add it for AU highways.

Might be a reason to have the car’s data sharing turned on - speed up the learning process

 

[jamesgo]

Not sure why but i'm about to start the install of 2020.40.4 (was on 2020.40.3)

I assume some hotfix.

 

[JohnBNE]

Not sure why but i'm about to start the install of 2020.40.4 (was on 2020.40.3)

I assume some hotfix.

Me too.

 

[James_B]

Yeah, I just got a notification for 2020.40.4 too, moving from 2020.36.16

 

[Hairyman]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1315616137464307718

The new AI rollout is starting

 

[JohnBNE]

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1315616137464307718

The new AI rollout is starting

Tesla to release 'Full Self-Driving Beta' to some customers next week - Electrek

 

[James_B]

I figured this would be the case, but confirmed now that the speed sign recognition is only for HW3.0. I'm on HW2.5 on my Model S. I contacted service again the other day about when upgrades would be available (I have purchased FSD), but they still have no timeframe.

 

[jamesgo]

Well if the green light recognition is anything to go by, it still needs some more training for Australia. I look at the screen and either get the green light from the other side of the street going across or a green arrow, both seen as good to go. Probably a Aust traffic light on poles thing compared to the USA where most lights are overhead on the power lines.

Admittedly a drag mode where it does a full launch on green would be good to see working for drag events.

 

[Vostok]

I'm at quite a loss with the new camera based speed limits. They don't really work. Or they really don't work. It's always one of the two.

Is it possible to turn the visual recognition off and have it solely use the maps?

I generally find the maps speed limits to be fine, and only fail when in tunnels or in temporary speed limit areas (e.g. construction zones).

Another example of Tesla trying to fix something that wasn’t really broken?

 

[m4rtin]

so, it's now wrong more than it was before

any ideas how we can help train it? i.e. there are some kinds of signs which don't apply to cars which it uses, like this one

 

[Stratman]

I don't think the "AI" is that smart yet and I suspect it probably does nothing much in Aus. You would think if it is actually learning anything my regular drive along a marked road that widens the car would not dart from left to right trying to put itself in a lane when its simply not required. The correct steering position that the human easily comprehends is that no steering correction or movement is required at all.

Ooops, my bad, It just occurred to me ... the car doesn't actually comprehend anything

 

[bomidi]

Installed 2020.40.4 and the release notes are the same as 2020.40.3 (must be some urgent bug fixes).