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Tesla Sues Falcon Wing Doors Supplier

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Tesla Sues German Auto Parts Maker Over Model X Door Delays

Auto maker says Hoerbiger misrepresented ability to design ‘falcon wing’ doors for SUV



Tesla alleges in a federal lawsuit that Hoerbiger Automotive Comfort Systems LLC misrepresented its ability to design the sport-utility vehicle’s signature ‘falcon wing’ doors
By Mike Ramsey The Wall Street Journal Jan. 19, 2016

Tesla Motors Inc. TSLA -0.13 % filed a federal lawsuit against a German auto parts maker for allegedly misrepresenting its ability to design the signature “falcon wing” doors on its Model X electric sport-utility vehicle, leading to a last-minute change to a new supplier that caused delays.The lawsuit, filed in the U.S. District Court of Northern California, aims to stop the supplier, Hoerbiger Automotive Comfort Systems LLC, from demanding more payment from Tesla after the electric-vehicle maker cut ties with the supplier in May 2015. Tesla is asking the court to state that it didn’t breach any contracts and to pay damages and attorney fees. Tesla claims it paid Hoerbiger, which makes hydraulic lift gates, to develop the vertically rising side doors on its Model X after a competition with several other companies. But between February 2014 and May 2015, the company couldn’t produce a prototype that passed Tesla’s engineering standards.

The falcon wing doors are a signature feature of the Model X, which has a base price of about $81,000. According to the lawsuit, prototypes from Hoerbiger leaked oil and sagged or produced excessive heat, causing them to stop working. Hoerbiger couldn’t be reached for a response Tuesday afternoon at its offices in Auburn, Ala., and Schongau, Germany.
“We were forced to file this lawsuit after Hoerbiger decided to ignore their contracts with us and instead demanded a large sum of money to which they are not entitled,” a Tesla spokeswoman said in an email. “We will vigorously prosecute this case.” According to the lawsuit, Hoerbiger is seeking additional payments from Tesla for the work it says it was promised. Tesla disputes that it owes the company anything more than the $3 million it paid for prototype parts and engineering.

In May 2015, Tesla ditched that company’s design and built an electromechanical door system and hired a new supplier, according to the lawsuit.“Tesla incurred millions of dollars in damages, including, but not limited to costs of re-tooling the entire vehicle in order to support a different engineering solution,” the lawsuit said. In addition, Tesla had to pay the new supplier a premium to rush out a workable solution.

Tesla delayed the Model X several times. It was first supposed to be produced in late 2013. In late 2014, Tesla said the vehicle would debut in the first half of 2015, but again it was delayed until late in 2015, except a handful of vehicles that went to company executives and early investors. “Model X deliveries are in line with the very early stages of our Model X production ramp as we prioritize quality above all else,” the spokeswoman said. “That ramp has been increasing exponentially, with the daily production rate in the last week of the year tracking to production of 238 Model X vehicles per week.”
 
I had to go back and review the spots where AnxietyRanger gave credence to this particular statement, and received extremely harsh pushback from some members. We can all learn something about heel digging from this.

I remember much disrespect to Eds and TSLA was $274 that day. Should have listened more objectively down 25% since then and actually would have had gain 100% on margin if shorted :confused:
 
Ouch. That would definitely explain some of the delays with the X. I do remember that thread with Eds about the Model X delays. I also remember lots of people giving him a hard time over it.

While I can understand people being protective of Tesla, this is a good reminder that taking a more objective look at things is much better than instantly dismissing any criticisms leveled at the company.
 
Eds made it difficult to objectively view the information by the way he presented it.

This is very true and looking back, was my main objection to his posts. He started with a question and then his second post was a list of detailed failures. He escalated so rapidly that it was hard to take him seriously. Still, he was pretty spot on.

I wonder if he could chime in on when mine will enter delivery? Eds? Eds?!!
 
Ouch. That would definitely explain some of the delays with the X. I do remember that thread with Eds about the Model X delays. I also remember lots of people giving him a hard time over it.

While I can understand people being protective of Tesla, this is a good reminder that taking a more objective look at things is much better than instantly dismissing any criticisms leveled at the company.


Well he did say < 200 cars. I Can't help but think someone out there took this as a personal challenge ;) :p

On a more serious note, to me the real shame is it seems we had someone that actually had some real intel on the situation, was prepared to share it (though probably in violation of NDA), and then crowd then jumped in and it all turned into a real mess.

That was then, and this is now. I've noticed a marked change here on TMC in terms of objectivity and balance over the last 6 months. If anything the coming to fruition of many of Ed's comments is probably a catalyst. (Though there have been some other pretty milestone threads too recently.)