Garlan Garner
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Could they have been provided ill informed information?the valets shouldn't be offering ill informed opinions
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Could they have been provided ill informed information?the valets shouldn't be offering ill informed opinions
really?Could they have been provided ill informed information?
Yes absolutely, I test drove a MS a while ago and received conflicting Super Charger information between the Tesla Store and my Test Drive guy.really?
This is a very common approach. People will often conform just because they think someone is watching. Just having a guy there in a Tesla shirt probably scares off most ICEing attempts without even words being exchanged. Likewise, if the valet TELLS me there's a 30-minute limit when I arrive, I'll feel like a schmuck if I overstay, I might even worry that they would tow me if I wasn't sure of their authority.I'm wondering in what way someone like that can enforce "30-minute" rule...
This is a very common approach. People will often conform just because they think someone is watching. Just having a guy there in a Tesla shirt probably scares off most ICEing attempts without even words being exchanged. Likewise, if the valet TELLS me there's a 30-minute limit when I arrive, I'll feel like a schmuck if I overstay, I might even worry that they would tow me if I wasn't sure of their authority.
.................... In addition, how would they determine that you are not actually using SpC for long distance travel even if you have CA plates?............................
^^^^^ THIS. I am NOT in CA but plan to use my LOCAL dealer's SC's to max up/top off before a long trip. I do not have super/fast at home and even though doing a charge seemingly local, I may be headed out for a near max run and want to be at or near 100%. How can someone sitting/minding the SC's know what my plans are? He/she could very well ask, but I'd be inclined to ask "why" and "who" wants/needs to know? My Sales rep said they expected locals to use and top off before long trips. My SC's don't have a human watchdog, but maybe they should. They are in a industrial area, semi-close to where I'd not just be hanging out at late hours from a safety standpoint.![]()
I stopped by the San Mateo supercharger today and chatted with the Tesla rep that's assigned to the location. It was like a full service gas station btw, I pulled in, and there was a Tesla capped gentleman putting the charger into my car. So we got to talking and I asked why this time I was getting around 250 miles per hour charge, and last time I was there I only got around 125 miles per hour charge. BTW, in Tahoe I've gotten up to 360 miles per charge so I was curious why all the different numbers.
He basically confirmed tha Tesla throttles customers that are topping off. If you head to the supercharger with an 80% full battery, you are effectively using the Supercharger to save charging at home. Tesla knows this and throttles the speed at which you can charge to discourage this behavior and save energy/spaces for traveling customers. Today I showed up with 1/3 full, aprox. 100 miles left and received a strong 250 miles per hour charge.
He also confirmed that the superchargers are capable of up to aprox. 370 miles per hour.
I know there are a lot of threads out there focused on the physics of charging an almost full battery, but the entire conversation today was around policy and not science.
Anyone else aware of this? or have had similar conversations with Tesla directly?
This is Tesla's pilot Valet service. They are offering it at highly congested supercharger locations throughout California. I've been to a few of the locations and think it's a great benefit.Why is there even a Tesla attendant at the supercharger in the first place?!?
Exactly the same is done at the European HQ, SeC and SuC in Amsterdam.This is Tesla's pilot Valet service. They are offering it at highly congested supercharger locations throughout California. I've been to a few of the locations and think it's a great benefit.
They maintain a wait list if there is a line for charging. It keeps the peace.
I think they should roll this out at other high traffic locations.
1. You do not have a LOCAL dealer or any dealer. Tesla does not have dealerships. It has stores and service centers.^^^^^ THIS. I am NOT in CA but plan to use my LOCAL dealer's SC's to max up/top off before a long trip. I do not have super/fast at home and even though doing a charge seemingly local, I may be headed out for a near max run and want to be at or near 100%.
if I need 60 minutes of charge I am staying 60 minutes.This is a very common approach. People will often conform just because they think someone is watching. Just having a guy there in a Tesla shirt probably scares off most ICEing attempts without even words being exchanged. Likewise, if the valet TELLS me there's a 30-minute limit when I arrive, I'll feel like a schmuck if I overstay, I might even worry that they would tow me if I wasn't sure of their authority.
I'm wondering in what way someone like that can enforce "30-minute" rule... I mean, you are not giving this person your fob, and he/she has no authority to have your car towed, etc. In addition, how would they determine that you are not actually using SpC for long distance travel even if you have CA plates?
I think there is also such attendant at the Mountain View SpC. Their presence might deter some locals from abusing the system, but not likely IMO.
AP/Summon and firmware updates... In principle, and AP car could be taught to stop charging after a time limit and then move out of the space after being unplugged using Summon under some sort of Tesla site authorization to a waiting area.
Tesla could teach all of the cars to stop charging after 30 minutes if they wanted to, but it wouldn't reduce clutter unless folks come back to the cars (or the cars can move aside as proposed above,) and it would annoy a lot of people.
Oh, I thought we were discussing situations in real life and not science fiction...I mean we can come up with 100 hypothetical scenarios for future use, but I was wondering about today and now. Attendant being a potential deterrent to abusers and "peace keeper" to others by providing order in the waiting line is good enough reason for me today.
that sort of limitation scheme would be a huge detriment to the program. when on trips I sometimes need more than 30 minutes of charging to reach my next stop. you are correct that this would annoy many if not most owners.AP/Summon and firmware updates... In principle, and AP car could be taught to stop charging after a time limit and then move out of the space after being unplugged using Summon under some sort of Tesla site authorization to a waiting area.
Tesla could teach all of the cars to stop charging after 30 minutes if they wanted to, but it wouldn't reduce clutter unless folks come back to the cars (or the cars can move aside as proposed above,) and it would annoy a lot of people.
As I think you're aware, right now there's nothing the attendant can do if the owner doesn't come back except call and have someone towed.
I don't think what I'm describing is SF, though - with the tools Tesla has available they could roll something like what I described out by firmware update tomorrow, if they chose to. There's certainly some software work they'd have to do and some work on the sites for waiting areas, but all of that could be happening without our knowledge.
Somewhere in between is an update that starts sending reminder notifications to owners on their cell phones after they've had a certain amount of charge time when folks are waiting.