Tesla superchargers opening up to other EVs?

[threeputts]

Elon Musk: Tesla Superchargers are now being used 'low-key' by other automakers - Electrek

 

[dipper]

So how is Tesla going to verify that those other car companies have cars that are safe to charge? Isn't that the reason Tesla disabled supercharging for salvage Tesla cars?

 

[Merrill]

If this means there will be more superchargers built, then I’m for it but wonder how this will effect the busiest superchargers.

 

[electricar]

The first time that I have to wait to charge because a non Tesla car is in a stall charging ( sanctioned by Tesla - not someone who figured out how to game the system ) will be the end of my loyalty to the brand.

 

[ChadS]

Imagine that every year, your friend hosts a potluck get-together at her condo - there are usually 8 people. Then one year, she says that she's also invited 4 of her neighbors to join in.

If the 4 neighbors just show up and eat without bringing anything...yeah, that would be a bummer. There might not be enough food for everyone.

But if they each bring a dish, not only does the food increase by the proportion of new attendees, but now there is greater variety for all. And in fact, with other condo owners attending, the event now qualifies to be in a nice common room that isn't allowed for private events.

Sure, just letting anybody in to use Superchargers with compensation would be bad. But Tesla has been clear they won't do that. Others joining, and paying their way, is a good thing for Tesla owners.

 

[ChadS]

*without compensation

 

[Chills]

That's a nice analogy and, in principal, I agree with you BUT I feel Tesla have already shown that they can't / won't expand the supercharger network fast enough to keep up with even the Tesla cars demand. Here in the UK its a big problem where you end up queueing to charge before being able to continue your journey. I fear allowing other manufacturers join in before massively expanding the sites and numbers will lead to big problems and, as this one of the main reasons many chose a Tesla, will be detrimental to their position and desirability. As with someone above, i will straight away look to other brands which I feel have not only caught up but are now better in some ways.

 

[BritneySpears]

So how is Tesla going to verify that those other car companies have cars that are safe to charge? Isn't that the reason Tesla disabled supercharging for salvage Tesla cars?

1. Yeah, good point. Any 3rd party car could be salvage title. They offer the battery inspection for salvaged cars for a ~$1k fee but state in their online terms that SC is still disabled even with the inspection. So that I think dilutes the safety argument. I think they disable it because they can to get people to buy their cars new. Nonetheless, it will be a contradiction if they allow 3rd party cars to use their stations. Or is it?

2. If 3rd party cars can use Tesla SC stations they would need Tesla to CCS1/Chademo adapter. So what's stopping anyone from getting the Tesla to CCS1/Chademo adapter and plugging that adapter into a CCS1/Chademo (the Chademo to Tesla adapter is sold by Tesla) to tesla adapter? That should emulate it's a 3rd party car. No?

 

[CYBER_Y]

1. Yeah, good point. Any 3rd party car could be salvage title. They offer the battery inspection for salvaged cars for a ~$1k fee but state in their online terms that SC is still disabled even with the inspection. So that I think dilutes the safety argument. I think they disable it because they can to get people to buy their cars new. Nonetheless, it will be a contradiction if they allow 3rd party cars to use their stations. Or is it?

2. If 3rd party cars can use Tesla SC stations they would need Tesla to CCS1/Chademo adapter. So what's stopping anyone from getting the Tesla to CCS1/Chademo adapter and plugging that adapter into a CCS1/Chademo (the Chademo to Tesla adapter is sold by Tesla) to tesla adapter? That should emulate it's a 3rd party car. No?

I think only a select few manufacturers would be joining a he tesla network like bollinger and possibly one other at this point. I assume they will install the proprietary Tesla charger and not ccs thus no adapter needed.

 

[cwerdna]

For those newer here, there was Elon Musk: Tesla is in talks with other automakers about sharing the SuperCharger network (UPDATED) - Charged EVs in 2015 and nothing ever came of it. In the circles I was in, the rumor at that time was BMW...

“Our Supercharger network is not intended to be a walled garden,” said Musk. “It’s intended to be available to other manufacturers if they’d like to use it. The only requirements are that the cars must be able to take the power output of our Superchargers, and then just pay whatever their proportion their usage is of the system. We’re actually in talks with some manufacturers about doing just that, and it will be exciting to share that news.”

I guess after that rumor came the below which threw cold water on BMW:

Updated 9/28/2015 – 2:30PM EDT
Speaking at the Economy for Tomorrow Conference in Berlin, Musk hinted at one automaker that has recently expressed interest in sharing the Supercharger network.

“The CEO of one European car company, not a German car company, has approached us recently about doing exactly that, and we’re super supportive of anyone who wants to do that.”

 

[Zoomit]

I think only a select few manufacturers would be joining a he tesla network like bollinger and possibly one other at this point. I assume they will install the proprietary Tesla charger and not ccs thus no adapter needed.

Aptera has shown a Tesla receptacle on their car.

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